Lurkers in the deep: How Canada’s new submarines will be used in peace and potential war

Lurkers in the deep: How Canada’s new submarines will be used in peace and potential war

“Canada’s next submarine fleet will secure our coastlines and waters,” Prime Minister Mark Carney said early last month in announcing the choice of Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems as the preferred bidder for the country’s new underwater fleet.

Patrolling Canada’s three coasts will be part of the job for the fleet of up to a dozen state-of-the-art diesel-electric 212CD submarines, says retired vice-admiral Darren Hawco, who commanded Canada’s Atlantic Fleet and served as the nation’s military representative to NATO until 2020.


I’ll believe it when I see it. We’ll get 3 subs if we’re lucky.

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Canada is spending billions of dollars on new submarines — so what are they actually for?

Canada is spending billions of dollars on new submarines — so what are they actually for?

A little over two years ago, the federal government announced it would be “exploring options” for the purchase of a new submarine fleet. Last week, Prime Minister Mark Carney announced the winning bid, for up to 12 diesel-electric submarines. He did so in advance of a visit to Ankara for the NATO leaders’ summit, where the deal between Canada and the German-Norwegian consortium TKMS was exhibit A in demonstrating our commitment to increased defence spending, a contentious issue for the Trump administration.

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Canada’s going to need to use its aging secondhand British subs for another decade

Canada’s going to need to use its aging secondhand British subs for another decade

Canada will have to squeeze at least another decade of life out of its used British submarines as it waits for Germany to deliver up to 12 new vessels. But not everyone’s convinced that can be done.

The four diesel-electric subs the Royal Canadian Navy acquired from Britain in the late 1990s have been plagued with disasters, including floods, a deadly fire and a grounding that took the only operational sub we have right now out of action for a decade.

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Number of new submarines still undecided as Canada begins talks with German builder

Number of new submarines still undecided as Canada begins talks with German builder

OTTAWA — Canada might not buy a full slate of 12 submarines through its new partnership with Germany and Norway because of factors like advancing technology in autonomous underwater machines, says the government’s secretary of state for defence procurement.

In an interview with the Star on Wednesday, Stephen Fuhr said the government has not settled on how many 212CD submarines it will ultimately buy as negotiations begin on the purchase of “up to” 12 of the modern diesel-electric craft from German-based shipbuilder TKMS.

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There’s a message for Trump in Mark Carney’s new submarine decision

There’s a message for Trump in Mark Carney’s new submarine decision

It will take close to a decade before the submarines Canada wants to buy will have any in-the-sea impact on the country’s security.

But Prime Minister Mark Carney will nonetheless get a boost from Monday’s announcement immediately upon arrival Tuesday for the NATO Leaders’ Summit.

That’s because it’s right on track with the theme of this year’s gathering in Ankara.

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Five things you should know about Canada’s new fleet of submarines

Five things you should know about Canada’s new fleet of submarines

OTTAWA – Prime Minister Mark Carney’s Liberal government is set to name Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems as the preferred bidder to build the navy’s next fleet of submarines, according to multiple media reports.

That means Canada will now enter into months of closed-door negotiations with the winner.

TKMS had been competing with South Korean defence firm Hanwha Ocean for the lucrative contract.

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LILLEY: Will Carney announce mixed submarine fleet on his way to NATO?

LILLEY: Will Carney announce mixed submarine fleet on his way to NATO?

There’s a good chance that Prime Minister Mark Carney could make a brief stop in Halifax on his way to the NATO Summit in Turkey this week.

Speculation has been building that the Royal Canadian Navy is preparing to announce the winner of its competition for a new submarine fleet, and Monday would be an ideal day to do it.

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Germany pledges four submarines by 2036 in high-stakes pitch to Canada

Germany pledges four submarines by 2036 in high-stakes pitch to Canada

Should the Liberal government decide to go with the ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) bid, the German shipbuilder has now pledged to deliver four Type 212-CD submarines to the Canadian Navy by 2036, the country’s defence minister tells CBC News.

Boris Pistorius said Wednesday that he has every confidence that the company will meet the delivery goal, which emerged early on as one of the major competitive differences between TKMS and South Korea’s Hanwha Ocean shipyard.

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South Korea’s Hanwha showcases submarine as Ottawa mulls multibillion-dollar contract

South Korea’s Hanwha showcases submarine as Ottawa mulls multibillion-dollar contract

The South Korean submarine ROKS Dosan Ahn Chang-ho arrived off British Columbia’s coast on Saturday in a flashy showcase of Hanwha Ocean’s bid to secure Canada’s multibillion-dollar submarine contract.

The vessel is visiting Victoria and will take part in joint anti-submarine exercises with the Royal Canadian Navy.

The newly built 3,000-ton KSS-III submarine made the historic 14,000-kilometre trans-Pacific voyage to demonstrate its long-endurance capabilities to Canadian decision-makers.

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Deadline day: $20B submarine showdown puts Korean and German bids in spotlight

Canada’s seemingly breakneck effort to replace its aging submarine fleet hits an important milestone on Monday with the deadline for both the South Korean and German shipyards to submit their formal proposals in the more than $20-billion program.

The federal plan to buy as many as 12 submarines for the Royal Canadian Navy has evolved rapidly over the last year into one of the most consequential procurement battles in a generation.

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New submarines will require extra gear after delivery to operate under ice, navy head says

The new submarines Canada plans to buy will not arrive with all the necessary equipment to operate under Arctic ice, meaning they will require modifications after delivery, the head of the navy says.

Vice-Admiral Angus Topshee said Canada will need to add under-ice gear to the boats after they arrive, such as upward-facing sonar that can detect and map overhead ice and areas of open water.

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Inside Hanwha’s pitch to win Canada’s lucrative submarine contract

Korean KSS-III submarine (US Naval Institute Review)

SEOUL, South Korea – On a packed bullet train heading towards Seoul, the face of Stephen Fuhr, Canada’s secretary of state for defence procurement, suddenly appeared on monitors in each of the 18 train cars.

In a four-minute news story, Fuhr was shown touring Hanwha’s shipyard in Geoje, along with more than 20 Canadian CEOs along for a trade mission.

Over two days, the delegation visited multiple industrial sites and the Republic of Korea’s (ROK) submarine command base. The event was widely covered by South Korean media, and is an indicator of the importance the Republic has placed on winning the massive contract to build Canada’s next generation of submarines.

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German, South Korean firms scramble to outbid each other on benefits of submarine deal

Brookfield Used Subs For Sale Or Lease

Both companies competing to build Canada’s new fleet of submarines are engaged in a battle of deal-signing this week, looking to convince the federal government and the public they’re serious about creating jobs in this country.

Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) has signed an agreement with Vancouver’s Seaspan Shipyard to establish a maintenance facility for the new submarines should the federal government select its Type-212CD as the replacement for the navy’s aging Victoria-class boats.

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Should the Canadian Coast Guard be armed? The jury is still out, but the navy says no

The commander of the navy says there’s no reason — in circumstances outside of war — to arm Canada’s fleet of coast guard ships.

And Vice-Admiral Angus Topshee tells CBC News that in the event of a conflict, there are potential ways the civilian vessels can be quickly given the equipment they need to defend themselves.

The question of whether the integration of the coast guard into national defence has painted a target on the civilian agency is something that has preoccupied Parliament for months.

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