Hundreds scuffle with police over US THAAD launcher deployment in South Korea

Well then perhaps Trump should pull out all American troops.

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  • I guess that shows that South Korea also has its moronic peace-at-any-price leftists.

    • Jabberwokk

      When you study personality types and you realize 63% are relationship oriented people whose primary concerns are safety and security you begin to understand why.

      Regardless, the storms always come. That they come cannot be avoided but how you respond is always in your hands. Plastic ad with words written on them is a poor response to bullets and rockets in my view.

    • canminuteman

      Or fifth columnists stirring up the shit.

  • Drunk by Noon ✓

    Give peace a chance!
    Yeah, let South Korea defend themselves in totality.
    No American life if worth that peninsula anymore.

    • NoKo is a direct and present nuclear threat to the US (and indirectly Canada). It cannot be ignored, but must be neutralized a.s.a.p.

      • Drunk by Noon ✓

        Without us having to defend an ungrateful South Korea I don’t think North Korea would be much of a threat to us. They don’t seem to be expansionist beyond South Korea. Besides, a couple of decades under the tutelage of Dear Leader might suit them. They of course can spend their own blood and treasure freeing them selves and free their brothers in the north.
        I’ve been done with South Korea for a while.

        • Exile1981

          My only concern is that the technology the North would get access to from taking over the south isn’t stuff we want him to get (ie the factories).

          • Drunk by Noon ✓

            Much of that technology would be of limited use to them.
            What I mean is that the structural flaws built into their society will prevent them from understanding or even being able to make use of it.
            The Soviets had the same problem by the early 1980’s.
            They were able to steal a lot of technological know-how from the west but were unable to put it to use because they couldn’t really understand it. They relied so much on pilfering technology and neglecting their own R&D they had no idea what to make of anything truly new or revolutionary.
            Other words, much of what they stole, they were unable to replicate.

          • Your reading of the S. Korean economic boom is not right. They deserve respect.

          • Drunk by Noon ✓

            I’m talking about the NORTH not fully grasping the technical know-how of the South.
            Two totally different societies.

          • Sorry, I misread you there.

          • Exile1981

            In the long run your likely correct; but do you remember back years ago the NK’s tried to buy a few thousand video game machines and it turned out the chip maker had used a military grade chip and just not used some of the functions to make the console faster? They found out and while they couldn’t re-create the chips a few thousand of them would increase the accuracy of their current fleet of icbm’s.

            So I was thinking more of them short term dangers of them having the access to higher tech. In the longer run they will loose that ability as stores are used up and the existing machines break down. It’s no different than the expensive medical devices we have given to various african nations over the years,

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I remember reading about how the Soviets decided to simply steal computer secrets rather than develop their own industry.
            The Americans salted their secrets, let them be stolen, and waited next to their seismometers for their next laugh.

          • Drunk by Noon ✓

            That pipeline explosion might or might not have gone down exactly that way.
            https://sofrep.com/7999/the-myth-of-the-cia-and-the-trans-siberian-pipeline-explosion/

            They did have a few really bad pipeline and industrial accidents in the 1970’s and 1980’s, and they stole (and used, or tried to use) a lot of industrial control and communications software and hardware designs that all had a dubious “return on investment”.

            The CIA has declassified a lot of stuff under the “Farewell” dossier. A fascinating read if you like cold war era real life spy stories.
            https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/96unclass/farewell.htm

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I’ll read it later.
            And thanks for the link.
            There is so much to do here.
            I chanced upon an opportunity, took it, and now it’s close to crunch time.
            The deal is that I have to go work up norther to help build the new construction project.
            Staying in a hotel instead of keeping this house.
            Good reasons.
            Two.
            I get to work on something very few people get to work on ever.
            In exchange I get to work fourteen straight twelve hour days.
            And on the third week I get to fly out, sleep in the same bed with my wife and hug my kids more than four weeks each year.
            I really hope it lasts longer than it’s been provisionally laid out.
            I like where I work now but six months between family is really hard.
            There’s a perfect world somewhere but I haven’t found it, yet.

        • DbN, you surprise me. I strongly disagree. The NoKo threat to N. America is real, and not related to SoKo. Moreover, S. Korea are real nice people, creative and productive, peace-loving and moral. They certainly would not deserve to be dominated by NoKo. Anyway, this won’t happen. What might well happen s that NoKo nukes or mass bombs SoKo, killing millions. I do not see what makes you indifferent to that. Even the people of NoKo are no doubt decent folk, victims of an evil $talinist elite. Only the elite deserves to be wiped out.

          • Drunk by Noon ✓

            Okay, let’s roll this back to the beginning and you can make your case.
            Assuming that the North assimilated the South into one country, undisputedly, then where do the North Koreans go from there?
            How can they threaten us?
            Personally, I do not think the North has the military capability to take the South, although they do have the ability to make a mess of the place.
            Unfortunately, the South (or many people in the South) seem to be so weak willed that I feel there is a serious chance that they would capitulate to the North if war actually did break out.
            North Korea is a very special case in that I think the US could use strategic nuclear weapons against them, even preemptively, and get away with it.
            Is China or Russia going to retaliate on their behalf?
            I think we are only a few bad decisions (on all sides) away from that possibility however, and if we are going to have a strategic weapons exchange, then the sooner the better.
            Okay that’s my argument.

          • The South won’t capitulate to the North. The North is an empty shell, a paper tiger, a bankrupt non-entity, not a power. With the latter statement you agree.
            NoKo would threaten N. America (the US) even more than now if it did beat SoKo. It would beat its chest, and indeed become a power, just like clownish Iran has become a power because no one put it in its place as soon as it raised its pretentious head.
            I agree with you that if US smashes NoKo, neither China nor Russia would be able to do much other than complain. Objectively, there is not enough at stake for them to risk their economies and regimes for this second-rate property.

          • Drunk by Noon ✓

            Even as an international problem, they could never in their wildest dreams be as bad as Iran, and even Iran as constrained as Iran is (due to their own stupidity), they still have a lot more resources than North Korea ever would have.
            Really, when you think about it, North Korea could NEVER annex the South. That population would be the un-indoctrinated poison pill that would bring down Kim Jung Un.
            The more I think about it, the North can’t do anything other than go out in a blaze of glory, or remain with the status-quo.
            They really do have no other options that leave them viable as a nation state.
            Hey, thanks for the discussion, now I’m utterly unworried! Assuming the North Koreans are not suicidal.

          • We agree. Good point about the S. Koreans – they are freedom-loving, I believe. I do think Kim is potentially suicidal.