The Secret History of Hiroshima Supports Trump on Nuclear Weapons

On the 72nd anniversary of the atomic bomb falling on Hiroshima, Japan, it’s high time to correct the record: “the Bomb” didn’t defeat Japan in World War II, and what actually happened lends support to President Donald Trump’s approach on nuclear weapons.

In April 2016, Trump infamously said that he would not rule out using nuclear weapons. “I don’t want to rule out anything,” the then-candidate declared. “I will be the last to use nuclear weapons. It’s a horror to use nuclear weapons. … I will not be a happy trigger like some people might be. But I will never, ever rule it out.”

Perhaps ironically, the true history of what happened when the U.S. used nuclear weapons against Hiroshima and Nagasaki on August 6, 1945, and August 9, 1945, backs up the idea that nukes — while dangerous and deadly and only useful in a last resort — are not quite as powerful as commonly believed.

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  • Drunk by Noon ✓

    The real power of nukes is the desire to NOT have them used on you.
    The dead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki very probably saved the lives of tens of millions of more people, whose names and nationality we will never know, and we owe them a great collective debt.

    • Good point. No matter how you slice it an invasion of Japan would have been horrific for all concerned.

    • Brett_McS

      The value as a deterrent of the Sword of Damocles is that it hangs, not that it falls. But it has to be clearly understood that it does fall.

  • Millie_Woods

    Revisionist history only works on people who want to believe it. And modern nuclear weapons are nothing like the primitive versions dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Don’t believe for one second that nukes “are not quite as powerful as commonly believed”.

    • The Japanese “command” worked very hard to keep bad news away from the Emperor, gross over estimates of losses inflicted on the American fleet were commonly presented as fact. For instance the American invasion of Guadalcanal was described as “nothing the Emperor need concern himself with”. During the battle for Guadalcanal the Emperor was told that British and American naval power had been reduced to that of a 3rd rate power.

      The Japanese command was so arrogant that they invested very little in intelligence gathering, “bad news” that ran counter to the grand plan was simply ignored.

      • Brett_McS

        They were the ISIS of their day.

        • Seriously so, every bit as fanatical, arrogant and ruthless. Sadly the Japanese learned from their mistakes and very few Banzai charges were launched after Guadalcanal, Peleliu became the Japanese template for dug in defense in depth.

          • Drunk by Noon ✓

            The cult of Bushido really screwed that country over to.
            They, in essence, marched their best and brightest soldiers into the path of mechanised American death rather than keep them around to share their experience with their inexperienced replacements.
            That happened across all their services causing their fighting quality to drop like a rock.
            From pilots, to sailors, to infantry, by the end of the war they were almost all novices.
            People like to talk about the tenacity of your average Russian or Nazi S.S. soldier in WWII but I’d match either of them up against a U.S. Marine that survived through the Island Hopping campaign.
            I think the Marines could have taught the S.S. a lesson or two in absolute savagery.
            Two Words: “Trophy Skulls”!
            Was anyone else doing that stuff?
            We took so many Japanese skulls that we were mailing them home as trophies to our future wives. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bbfe473a1d294927849ed690a4f0e05cdb5c1818b83af4c0a2714ceff4fa8de3.jpg

          • When the Japanese wounded started killing Marine medics it was the end of any pretense to civility.

            The Japanese were barbarians and allied forces of all nations learned quickly that mercy was never going to play a role. The Chinese learned first with the rape of Nanking, it is claimed that the Japanese murdered some 250,000 Chinese in retaliation for the Doolittle Raid. From bayoneting the wounded in their hospital beds in Hong Kong to germ warfare to the routine torture, murder and mutilation of captured allied soldiers.

            The Japanese invaded New Guinea and were finally stooped by the Aussies in the battle of Port Moresby, aside from being “brutal” to everyone along the way the Japanese command one upped it again and sent its forces in with orders to live off the land. The allies were able to starve many of them out as a result.

          • Drunk by Noon ✓

            One minor nitpick, U.S. Marines don’t have their own medics. They use U.S. Navy medics. It’s a tradition thing, every Marine a rifleman, and all that.
            Yeah, the Japanese really pissed us off over that kind of nonsense, and to the point where we would not accept their surrender, but that we had to put sizable bounties on living Japanese POWs (for interrogation value) so they wouldn’t be killed by the first person in their chain of custody that felt like killing more “Japs” that day.
            It’s difficult to describe the level of animosity that existed back then, but they entirely brought it upon themselves.
            They were savage animals and got treated as such.
            They were really, really hated.

          • It was a sincerely held hatred.

      • Millie_Woods

        Europe’s leadership is using the same playbook to gloss over the impact of the migrant crisis.

      • Norman_In_New_York

        I read all about Guadalcanal in “The History of U.S. Naval Operations in World War II” by Samuel Eliot Morison. The navy did suffer heavy losses, but we prevailed because we were able to replace all our lost ships. Meanwhile, the Marines won every pitched battle against the Japanese on the ground. The fighting created place names there that included Bloody Ridge, Coffin Corner, and offshore, Ironbottom Sound. After we won the decisive naval battle, sinking two Japanese battleships and an entire convoy of reinforcements, the Army relieved the Marines to finish securing the island.

        • simus1

          Ultimate US victory on the ground at Guadalcanal hinged on the Japanese Army being totally unprepared most of the time to cope with the very hostile jungle environment that was to be their lot. Another ace were the huge stocks of Japanese rations the marines captured intact on day one and survived on for much of the time at what would soon become Henderson Field. Lastly the Japanese Navy had no apparent understanding that the highest priority should have been given to the destruction of the critical supply ships supporting the marines battling ashore.

  • UCSPanther
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  • Interesting article about the reasons for Japan’s surrender.Also interesting to read that Japan killing up to 10 million people.

  • Gary

    It was Tojo that refused to surrender and tried to take over the nation. The records show that he told Herohito that he had 5,000,000 loyal people on the island that will die to repel a land invasion .
    There were 2 million troops and 3 million civilians. The 5000 pilots from ground based forces inside japan had about 2000 Kami Kazi’s .

    The leftists and no-war people would have been happy if another 5,000,000 japanese were killed for their values to not use the Bomb.

    The NDP is always about 4 years too late for a war or genocide because they
    need to wait and see which side is popular for agreeing with it or opposing it.

  • simus1

    Once the top leaders in Japan outside the military were made aware that two different types of atomic bombs had been dropped on them and they were not going to be some sort of one bomb a year bluff, the game was over.
    The left, of course, had cynically structured their can’t lose position as “using the bomb – that’s racist” while “not using the bomb – what a scandal, millions of Americans dead and wounded, tens of billions of dollars wasted in building it”.