New atheists and the left fall out over Islam

You know, Dawkins dumped at Berkeley and all that. From Elliot Kaufman at National Review:

Why must ardent secularists from the Islamic world like Ayaan Hirsi Ali — the type of people the Left looks to for inspiration in the history of Western secularism — be deemed bigots, while Sharia-supporting conspiracy theorists like Linda Sarsour are cherished? Why has criticizing Islam caused the New Atheists to cross a red line in the progressive imagination?

These positions make no sense if one thinks of the Left as seriously secular, convinced of the need to end the reign of superstition. But American liberals profess neither the passionate skepticism of David Hume nor the honest, urgent atheism of Nietzsche. They prefer to embrace a shallow, culture-war atheism instead.

This culture-war atheism provides “evidence,” quick and easy, to support the proposition that America is split into two camps: the intelligent, sophisticated, urbane, righteous liberals and the idiotic, gullible, backward, bigoted conservatives. The former are atheists and the latter are believers, flattering one side and bludgeoning the other. In fact, it is this type of thinking that made progressives fall in love with the New Atheists in the first place.

Maybe the progressives wanted a sciencey flounce but not the late nights at the lab? And the Darwinian left wanted the jihad without the suicide?

We don’t know if any of them have got what they wanted but we have all got the reality now.

See also: Dawkins dumped from Berkeley due to “hurtful words”


Dawkins haunted by the ghost of (ulp!) Ben Stein

  • Adam

    This is all wrong. The modern left is actually a direct descendent of the revolutionary left of decades past.

    As such, the left needs storm troopers, real ones. Antifa and Islam are to be understood as the armed wings of the left.

    Of course, the left plays with fire when it allies with Muslims, for whom this is all very temporary.

  • Gary

    If we sit back and let the islamists slaughter all the gays , Liberals, atheists , feminists, and SCOC judges….. it won’t all be bad news because they can purge Canada for us of the moron Gene that had spread for about 55 years now.

    Then we take up arms and get canada back while islam gets tossed in the junkyards of failed fascism and communism. If there wasn’t a death penalty for leaving islam… would be down to about 150,000,000 followers in the hard-core pro-sharia nations.

    Our problem is that some muslims pretend to be refugees fleeing islam’s oppression but once here they demand sharia law and mosques in public schools.

    • ismiselemeas

      You raise a great point and one that is often lost in the debate. The vast majority of the world’s muslims don’t give a flying toss for islam. The peer and community pressure is so great to conform however that they just keep up appearances. Regardless, 150,000,000 hard core muslims is still an enormous standing army.

      • Adam

        The vast majority of world’s Muslims are only “peaceful” in the sense that they themselves aren’t bombers. However, they do support the agenda of those who commit acts of violence, i.e. Sharia law, end of freedom and democracy, etc..

        The rise of Islam in the West is the beginning of the end of Western Civilization, and that entails.

        • ismiselemeas

          I never said they were peaceful…

      • J. C.

        Keep in mind though, that while many of them only stick with the ideology of Islam out of fear, non-whites are much more inclined to stick with their own ethnicities no matter the current social or political circumstances. While many may indeed not give a flying toss for Islam, fewer still give flying tosses for other races.

        In the end, we’ll have to fight them all…

        • Alain

          A good example of that is the anti-Semitism that exists equally among the Arabs be they Muslim or Christian. Tribal affiliation always trumps everything else in the long run.

  • bargogx1

    Another day, another example of blatant leftist hypocrisy.