Who Really Killed Europe?

I recently attended a Brussels event on migration alongside young American and European researchers and activists. The musings of the guardians of human decency there would send average European voters fleeing towards the populist right. The argument was made that generous migration levels should stem not from compassion but be an indefinite manifestation of reparations for the crimes of Western civilization. Integration courses for new male migrants on sexual assault “stereotyped” their cultures, and the voluntary wearing of the Islamic niqab functioned as a form of female empowerment.

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  • dance…dancetotheradio

    I know what killed Europe.
    And this ain’t going to be popular.
    When the Allies won the Second World War, the United States should have taken possession.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      We kind of did, but being the benevolent masters that we are, we gave it back.
      The real reason that Europe circling the drain is manufactured and falsely perpetuated guilt over WWII and the holocaust. This was exploited by leftist of all stripes for their own gain.
      That moral debt, whatever it might have been, needs to be publicly declared to be “paid in full”.

      • Alain

        The guilt you mention only applies at best to Germans, so I do not find it the reason for the situation throughout Western Europe. Western Europeans along with the UK were already having a love affair with socialism during WW I, and it really blossomed following WW II. Since socialism is really communism in different cloths, they abhor the nation state and believe it is the cause of all wars. Globalism is their new utopia.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          ¡No Señor!
          You are making assumptions (although rational ones) that do not reflect the reality on the ground but instead reflect how you think. I’m not saying that there is even anything wrong with how you think as I used to think that way too. It might fit the model in your head, but it’s just not accurate.

          Many Jews blame ALL European Whites (and their descendants) for the holocaust and are quite happy to read of European deaths at the hands of Islamic terrorists.
          Not all do, but many do, and some of them, until recently, would even routinely express that belief here on the board.
          Now, when you take that into account, along with the belief that many Jews do NOT view themselves as White then you see an entirely new racial component to the issue that wasn’t there before, or you didn’t realize was there before.
          From there it gets complicated.
          The socialism/leftism aspect is secondary, or even tertiary.

          • Alain

            We are talking about two different things here. I was commenting on the fact that the rest of Western Europe felt no guilt over the Holocaust while the Germans did. The rest of them considered themselves victims of the Nazis, end of story. I am not suggesting that they had no responsibility concerning the elimination of the Jews of Europe, but they all consistently denied playing a part. That is why I say that the guilt part only applies to the Germans.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            I never owned a slave and neither did any of my ancestors, however we live in a white-guilt society that preaches the evils of ‘white privilege’. I personally feel no guilt over slavery (because I was never a slave owner), but there are no shortage of blacks that now think I owe them something because of the color of my skin. That is how Europe is operating under the collective “guilt” of the holocaust. That is expressed in the institutionalized belief of anti-xenophobia. Originally meant to eliminate the persecution of the Jews, but now used to force the toleration of every abhorrent cultural practice by non-whites.
            Here’s an example of that multi-generational collective guilt in action. After you reading that, do you still think I’m wrong?
            https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2017/07/14/vive-le-caliphate/#disqus_thread

          • Alain

            I think you have named exactly what I meant. You do not accept to take on the false guilt concerning slavery. Living and going to school in France post WW II along with numerous visits and stays in the rest of Western Europe, I know for fact that the French, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch and Swiss totally rejected any blame or guilt for WW II, especially the Holocaust. I did not find it different either in the UK. What I did find among the “elite” was the communist myth that wars are caused by sovereign nation states. I should say that was nowhere near as prevalent and strong in the UK or Switzerland at the time. That remains the basis of my take, but it is alright if we continue holding different views on the matter.

    • mauser 98

      US taxpayers ,Military spending &forces defended Europe
      allowed free stuff Euro welfare state to explode

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        I know!

    • mauser 98

      “United States should have taken possession.”
      they did somewhat
      bases, forces all over Europe for 60 years

      political possession would have been a disaster

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        I’m still mulling it over.

  • Millie_Woods

    It was the Eurotrash. But the US will get the blame.

  • Alain

    I am fed up with the lie of crimes committed by Western civilisation, as though every other group never did anything bad or wrong. What exactly were those so-called crimes? Bringing or at least attempting to bring civilisation to primitive and backwards people, or providing them with education and Western technology? Especially spare me that racism bit, because the West has never had a monopoly on racism. That some mistakes were made here and there or that some individuals did bad things, granted, but compared to other groups it is not difficult to prove that the West was far better.

  • Hard Little Machine

    Every few decades Europe destroys itself. We’re more or less on schedule.