Even If ISIS Goes Down Soon, It Probably Won’t Stay Down Long

Many argue that ISIS is close to death. But whatever happens in Raqqa, ISIS’s cause will live on.

Three years after it emerged, the Islamic State is said to be on the road to defeat. In recent months, ISIS has suffered stinging reverses. This week, with its grip over Mosul being pried off by the Iraqi army, ISIS destroyed the al-Nuri mosque where Omar al-Baghdadi declared the caliphate in June 2014.

  • The names of their groups may change, but the countless jihadis are the same.

    Nothing will change without Islamic reformation.

    It is that simple.

    • Watchman

      “Nothing will change without Islamic reformation.”

      Then nothing will change. Any islamic reformation incurs the death penalty, and is supported theologically by the islamic holy texts for being carried out by judicial and extra-judicial means.

      • RICO M3 – How to jump start an Islamic reformation from the USA


        • Brett_McS

          Good post.

        • Jabberwokk

          Read through it (again). You correctly identifying the problem but miss the solution. I saw No mention of the Koran, The Hadiths, or the life and example of the prophet Muhammad and if you don’t change those (which the post admits it can’t) how can you possibly come to the conclusion that a RICO case can possible initiate a reformation?

          If you edit the texts to say something other than what they do, or change the saying’s of Mohammad to mean or say something other than what he said or lived then you undermine the authority that Islam claims about itself chiefly that is the perfect and immutable word of Allah, A literal miracle claimed by all of Islam’s top sources and scholars. You can’t reform that and therefore reformation is impossible.

          So I can only assume what you mean by reformation is something vastly different to what i know it as or your only interested in the external behavior without attacking the inward ideas that produce them. I don’t contest this idea can be used to legally jail followers of the Islamic faith and/or as means of dealing with them on that level but it is most definitely not a path to reformation.

          • Getting rid of Mosques, mullahs and their associated money will make the incitement of jihadis much less likely.

            If Muslims had no mosques and mullahs the majority would slowly shake off the Islamic brainwashing.

            Islam thrives as a pathology because of M-3 — the mullahs, mosques and money. Get rid of these three and the problem would be much easier to deal with.

  • simus1

    Governments tend towards the pound foolish and premature penny wise form of action when their civil war opponents lose the big fights and dwindle down to a few loosely allied groups of brigands out in the badlands. Stalin always took the much more expensive path that until they were dead the job was unfinished. Chiang Kai Shek &Co had Mao and his crowd dead as door nails with just a little more persistence but failed the test.

  • There will be something else to replace this rancid group.

    I shudder to think of the things they are capable of.

    The ideology must be thwarted.

    • Watchman

      When the West was fighting Al Qaeda, the politicians said, “Cheer up, things could be worse.” So we cheered up and things did get worse, with ISIS appearing out of the ruins of an ‘Arab Spring’ supported and promoted by the Obama Government and abetted by “We came, we saw, he died” Hillary Clinton.

      • UCSPanther

        ISIS has considerably raised the bar for the aggression of Jihad, and the plague of “lone wolves” and their constant attacks have certainly had a negative effect. ISIS has focused more on quantity over quality, which has enabled them to inflict a constant barrage on the Europeans. Even failed attacks have the advantage of still sowing fear, which is the general goal of terrorism by definition.

        Even if ISIS is destroyed, this will continue as terror groups will adopt its tactics.

      • Will Quest

        apropos Hillary….. she came, we saw. she died …..

        • Justin St.Denis

          You wish!

      • Dr. Sebastian Gorka has a point when he says that it’s not enough for ISIS to be defeated. If the ideology lives on, then it’s a Pyrrhic victory at best.

        There should more “perfect man” billboards everywhere one looks.

  • The__Hammer

    The spirit of the Islamic State will live on

    • Alain

      Yes, it will as long as Islam exists.

      • Justin St.Denis

        That is pretty much it in a nutshell.

  • Norman_In_New_York

    Even within the Muslim world, temporal power and religious power coexist uneasily. If the tyrants feel threatened by the imams, they will act for self-preservation. The Saudis are approaching this crossroads where they can no longer buy off the Wahhabi establishment.

    • Justin St.Denis

      The Saudis FUND the Wahhabi movement. They SPREAD Wahhabi Islam worldwide through their funding the building of mosques. They fund and provide Wahhabi theological education at the Al Aqsa university in SA. The finance the international “tours” of Wahhabi imams worldwide. Saudi Arabia is virtually at the root of most Islamic extremism in the world, if you follow the money trail. The dots are large and not difficult to connect.

  • Jabberwokk

    People forget that ISIS is just johnny-come-lately.

  • Tooth&Claw

    The ideology has to be exposed for what it really is far and wide. The pillars of Islam must be destroyed so the roof collapses.