Immigrants Say They Are English-Proficient; Tests Say Otherwise

Many Hispanic immigrants who rate their English skills highly perform at low levels on English proficiency tests, according to a study released Wednesday.

The research, published by the Center for Immigration Studies, calls into question the argument that concerns over language gaps are overblown because new arrivals quickly pick up English.

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  • bob e

    they absolutely don’t care about learning english. they don’t care about us either. the live in their barrios, mental or physical, and screw everyone else..

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      The problem is they don’t learn English.
      They learn engrish.
      I’m arrogant enough to think that I would get the language of another country down eventually.
      It drives me nuts when someone who has been here for ten years or more can’t put an ‘s’ at the end of a word that is plural or they omit the ‘ed’

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        I have some Spanglish for youuuuuu!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z13CVD0idrM

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Oh, and I kind of don’t like George Lopez.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I’m a comedian.
            And I am Mexican.
            Did I tell you I am Mexican?
            And whitey sucks.
            Did I tell you I’m Mexican?
            Hey, look, the white people look down on us because we have a failed culture.
            Did I tell you I’m Mexican?
            Hey, how many Americans and Canadians illegally immigrated to Mexico last year?
            Did I tell you I am Mexican?
            Hey, bean burritos make white people fart.
            Did I tell you I am Mexican?
            George Lopez is a fucking hack.
            The only thing I can give him credit for is that I have never heard him say that Conan O’Brien took ‘ur jubs.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            Twenty years ago he was much more funny.
            One of my sisters used to work with him, at a regular job, a bit over thirty years ago and said he was really funny just being around back then.
            She said he had a pretty horrible childhood and his family is pretty much garbage.
            The stories are really bad.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            So why is he trying to blame us for his shitty childhood?
            Mine was pretty bad.
            (Brush your teeth with baking soda or wipe your ass with the Sears catalogue kinda bad or fill up on bread because we ate all the macaroni and cheese at suppertime.)
            I don’t blame him for mine.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            No, his problem wasn’t of poverty, although they were poor, he just managed to have the world’s shittiest mother (and I think his father was utterly MIA) that you can imagine.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            It took me forty five years to realize my mother was not my best friend.
            She hamstrung my wife over a family issue and I finally saw the truth.
            I should have seen it back in 1999 when she was supposed to pick me up, as is tradition when you deliver your kid to the church on time.
            She was late and I found a different ride.
            Put up with her for a dozen years for the sake of my kids having a grandmother and a grandfather.
            Fuck it, now.
            I missed mother’s day and father’s day in regards to my parents.
            They are already dead to me.
            They can settle in with my heroin addicted brother, caused by my father’s own heroin addiction, and my benzo addicted mother and sister.
            Fuck them all.
            Nearly twenty years and my mother has yet to visit my house.
            My father only visited my apartment once because he thought I might have killed myself.
            I heard him come in.
            I was in bed.
            Landlord gave him access and once he saw me ‘sleeping’ he turned on a dime and left.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            I’m so sorry

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            If you have been fucked over your entire life you can’t really see it.
            You think it is normal.
            It’s not normal.
            Damaged people only get to see that when they meet normal people.
            So, I don’t know where to go.
            I think that by telling them not to be me that they will take the best of me and leave the worst of me behind.
            I am looking at a lamplit wall and wondering.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            You’ve had your own.
            I know you have.
            I’m not asking you to tell me.
            I guess I am just seeking licence to release myself from my parents.
            They have never done me any good.
            I fucking hate them.
            I fucking hate them twice.
            I repeated that again because I fucking hate them.
            I have been supporting myself since I was ten years old.
            Ten years old.
            And when I said that I had enough of the newspaper business they told me I had to go wash dishes for a living.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            Hey man, I’ve got a wife and two kids.
            I’m as lucky as any man.
            They are the most important people in my life.
            I am the luckiest prick you’ve ever known.
            Every day I wake up I know who I am and how lucky I am.
            That I only get to see them four weeks a year is bit of a pain.
            Not forever, one day.

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          I’m not watching this.
          Lopez is a bigger hack than Carrot Top.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            I beatcha to it! 🙂

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            You sonofabitch!

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            Youknow how hard it was reading your mind and then typing it out BEFORE you could? 🙂

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I fucking love you man!

      • WalterBannon

        That does not bother me. What bothers me are the ones who don’t assimilate into our culture and aspire to make good by drive, initiative and hard work. I’d rather have 10000 freedom loving, enthusiastically capitalist Chinese who slaughter the English language, than 1 totalitarian sharia following Muslim invader who wants to slaughter the infidels or impose their system on us.

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          Well that is a new problem.
          Twenty five years ago it was just speak engrish.

  • barryjr

    Why should we expect the numbers to be any different with any immigrant group here in Canada. If you are immigrating to any country anywhere in the world you should be able to pass a written and oral fluency exam for whatever language is the official or main language of that country.

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    “Just 2 percent of Hispanic immigrants who believe they speak English well or very well earned the highest scores on the test. That compares with 12 percent of non-Hispanic immigrants and 14 percent of natives.”

    I think this is a cultural thing with Mexicans and Central Americans but they are notorious at overestimating their skill-levels on everything.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      I don’t care about Mexi-niggers.
      At all.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        Get enough of them around you and ya will.

  • WalterBannon

    Forget immigrants.

    Most of the current crop of high school and university grads are not proficient in English, or any other language for that matter.