‘We are not opening the Constitution’: Trudeau pans Quebec’s plans

As Premier Philippe Couillard kicks off a renewed discussion about Quebec signing on to the 1982 Constitution, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wants no part of it.

“You know my views on the Constitution,” Trudeau told reporters in French on Thursday morning in Ottawa. “We are not opening the Constitution.”


‘Quebec has changed’: Time is right to reopen constitutional debate, Philippe Couillard says

Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard says the time is right to reopen the constitutional debate in the hopes of having the province’s distinct character officially recognized.

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  • Linda1000

    Yes, Quebec, please take your distinct Quebecois nation and make a decision at long last for independence from the Federation but take your debt with you. As you say, it’s for your own healthy survival. Now is the time to take your leave as Trudeau is a weak leader.

    • eMan14

      I would also like to add that they take only the land that they came into Confederation with. The rest is ours.

    • Waffle

      I think you guys are reading this the wrong way. This just could be the salvation of Canada.

      I say Bravo, Quebec. Let the revolution begin!!

      • Linda1000

        Don’t really think so as why should Quebec be given $10 billion out of $18 B equalization payments?
        http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-to-get-10b-of-18b-in-federal-equalization-payments-1.2709669
        Quebec is probably the most corrupt province in Canada so I can’t imagine their politicians intentions would be any better (Couillard).
        Read what Lisee says in the article and that is how Quebecers have always regarded themselves. What exactly is so special about Quebec and how much do they contribute to the rest of Canada? As for “sovereignty”, I would actually like to see SK and AB opt out of a “federation” that no longer works for Western Canada.

        Earlier, Parti Québécois Leader Jean-François Lisée commended what he described as the premier’s acknowledgement that there is a “problem” when it comes to Quebec’s place within Canada.

        “The recognition that something is really broken in Canada, that lessens the power of Quebec, the health of Quebec, the ability of Quebec to make its own decisions, is welcome,” Lisée said.

        “There were ways for Mr. Trudeau to be decent,” said Lisée. “He chose to be flippant, inelegant and to show disregard for the chief of government for the Quebec nation in the worst possible way.”

        Lisée added that “disrespecting Quebec is a good thing when you want to have votes in the rest of Canada.”

        Martine Ouellet, leader of the separatist Bloc Québécois, said she believes Couillard is playing politics, but she said the debate will allow for conversations about Quebec’s place in the world.

        “The only solution to all the constitutional crises is to take our independence,” she said.

        • Linda1000

          And, oh, yes we have this little shit figured out also. 🙂 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e5db4eeaadf7e7dcd9eaa623bcbc6d19ce457318a5b442856d155551f58a4037.jpg
          “Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada, because you know, Quebecers [are special], that’s all.”

        • Waffle

          Whether the sovereignists like it or not, Quebec is firmly joined at the hip to the ROC, so all the rhetoric regarding separation is just that — rhetoric.
          As for equalization — a ridiculous concept and a foundational block in the socialization of Canada. Should be tossed out with yesterday’s garbage and let each province/territory live within its own means and resources which seem to be spread equitably across this vast land.

          BTW, do you not think it more than somewhat ridiculous that we get all hung-up over over international free trade agreements while firmly maintaining inter-provincial trade barriers?

          I firmly believe that if Canada is to survive — that is, IF there is anything left — our Constitution MUST be revisited. In its present form there are many flaws and weaknesses — not the least of which it permits self-appointed elites an unlimited an unchecked bounty of power. Hence, we have a narcissistic retard with megalomaniacal fantasies and there is little that we can legally do to remedy this dire situation.

          So, if that old familiar drum beat of Quebec separation is the rallying cry to opening up the Constitution, so be it.

          • Linda1000

            Mostly agree with you but Quebec gets very tiresome after all these years and meaningful change never seems to happen – not with the federal agreements in Ottawa or within Quebec. Living in the West, many people here feel quite alienated from Eastern elites. I think many Quebecers, whether they admit it or not agree with the separatist rhetoric so why don’t they have another referendum on it. Seems to me they want the Constitution reopened to make more demands and that is just not going to be acceptable with the rest of Canada anymore. I don’t even think French is the second biggest language in Canada these days so their bilingualism garbage is outdated also. Quebec would be a better fit with France since Justine and Macron are twins.

  • Jaedo Drax

    sure:

    revise section 1 which currently reads:

    1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
    guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such
    reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a
    free and democratic society.

    by inserting a period between ‘it” and “subject” and remove all words after the new period.

    Also, add to it:

    1) no government may give itself a raise without the consent of the people
    2) no government may increase or create any tax without the consent of the people
    3) no bills of attainder are permitted
    4) end equalization
    5) no physical property may be taxed
    6) no income may be taxed more than once
    7) all government spending must be on a net zero basis
    8) no government spending can be increased by more than 1/2 the current rate of inflation
    9) any moneys not spent by End of year, will be returned to the people
    10) no moneys may be spent on businesses by the government
    11) government budgets may not exceed 15% of GDP, net.

    add in more if you like.

    • Linda1000

      Copied: Does this belong?
      “the people have a right to keep and bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.”

    • Waffle

      Term limits and RECALL, RECALL, RECALL!!
      Private property rights including mineral rights

  • CoolTolerance

    Something feels very wrong with Justin’s eyes. A dead look. His entire face seems like a mask.

    • Tooth&Claw

      MK Ultra programming, some say.

      • Linda1000

        What is MK Ultra? He just looks spaced out as usual when he has to answer a hard question.

        • Tooth&Claw

          Look it up . Trauma programming, CIA

          • Linda1000

            Ok, thanks.

        • ntt1

          He gets that spaced look from his mom,less than kind Canadians assumed she was brain damaged.

          • Exile1981

            He’s the poster child for why drinking and doing drugs during pregnancy is a bad idea.

        • Exile1981

          MK ultra was a cia brainwashing experiment in the 50’s and 60’s into some say the 80’s.

          Every conspiracy seems to try to tie in mk ultra

      • CoolTolerance

        Makes sense. The guy can’t answer a question, even a simple one, without pausing and stuttering and deflecting to a ready-made non-response. He also lacks emotion.

        And now, he no longer shows up for work… I wonder about the wife, Sophie, she also seems a bit on that side. Notice she doesn’t follow him on foreign trips.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        So you just asked me if two plus two equals five and I have to say it is very nice to be here in Switzerland.
        By the way, my father came here once or maybe twice.
        Awesome place, next question that I won’t answer, please.

    • Waffle

      He’s quite insane and was DOA.

      • CoolTolerance

        Not insane. More like a ROBOT.

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    Québécois are the vampire that feeds off Canadian’s tax dollars.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      You have the toothless Cajuns.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        Real life Louisiana bijou Cajuns tend to distrust the government to the point where many of them are reluctant to even collect welfare.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      If I fought him in a charity boxing match he wouldn’t make it off the mat.
      I might only be 5 foot 2 and a hundred and ten pounds (I’m not, I’m a little bigger) but I would clean his clock like Tyson.
      We engage in political conversations all the time at work.
      I’m always the odd man out.
      Trump won, fuck off cunts.
      No one knows the fury of forty or fifty years of swallowing their shit.
      I’m not in the right place and that is why I am trying to leave.
      And my elbows are the strongest part of my body.

  • disqusW6sf

    They don’t want to leave….they want special status to do what they want and for us to pay for it. Same old stuff. Go away Quebec.

    • Clausewitz

      Quebec has 11 billion reason’s every years why they will never leave Confederation. End of story.

  • PaulW

    Quebec refuses to develop their resources but is quite happy to take money from the ROC.

    https://twitter.com/PremierBradWall/status/870355742720532480

  • Jabberwokk

    Take your debt and go.