New York poised to pass free public college tuition statewide

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who announced the proposal in January alongside former Democratic presidential candidate Sen Bernie Sanders, hailed the deal as an historic opportunity for hundreds of thousands of families in the Empire State.

Under terms of the deal, the program would be phased in over three years. This year, students whose families earn less than $100,000 per year would be eligible for free college tuition. That cap would be raised to $125,000 once the program is fully implemented.

  • CodexCoder

    I know that this won’t be a popular point of view, but people rarely appreciate anything that they receive for free. They place far greater value on things that have been obtained through struggle and self-sacrifice. For example, those that fought in a war to maintain freedom savor it more than those who take it for granted because they contributed directly to its continued existence. Just ask a veteran.

    • Clink9

      My kids have seen this for themselves. They pay their own tuition and see how the jokers act that get a cheque from mommy and daddy.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        It cost me two and a half years of lost wages when I went back to school.
        My wife supported us then.
        I’m earning it all back now.

  • moraywatson

    And all the professors will be lecturing for free. The electricity to keep all the lights on will be free. The custodians will clean all the floors for free. And every dorm will have a unicorn.

  • Spatchcocked

    I remember in the 80s many restaurants in California gave free wine with meals.
    It wasn’t free of course but you get the carny simplicity of it …..same as a free lunch in a tavern turn of two centuries in our past …
    Nothing is free…..repeat after me….nothing is free!

  • Spatchcocked

    Heck…..I can remember buying my Ordained Minister of the neo American Church diploma in the 60s….cost me twenty dollars to do the Lords work.
    I thought it might get me laid.

  • Tooth&Claw

    So, now the education they seek will become what it’s worth. Nothing.

  • David Murrell

    It didn’t his the national media, but New Brunseivk’s governing Liberals passed a law making post-secondary education “free” starting this year. I retired from teaching last year (I still do research), but I pity the professor having to teach students who no longer have to pay for tuition. Another bad thing is tha liberal arts courses and radical social science courses will also be “free” — and since these cores are inherently worthless relatively more students will now start taking these valueless courses than would be the case for STEM (science, technology, engineering, math, medicine, management sciences) courses.

    Data shows that there has been a massive drop in arts and social science enrollments, relative to STEM enrollments, given the worthlessness of the former, and the creeping fascism inherent with the former. What New York and New Brunswick have done is to breathe life into the arts and social science fields, and that should be seen as a bad thing.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      Many people I worked with in the hotel business had Bachelor of Arts degrees.
      I don’t work with them anymore because I have a diploma in electronic engineering.

  • Hard Little Machine

    SUNY used to get no more than 50% of their funding from public sources. It’s far far less than that now. So the state, per se isn’t really paying for it. Everyone else is – tuition payers, private grants, out of state students, corporations, and so on. The stick for that carrot is that the students have to guarantee that they will reside and work in NYS for an equal amount of time they receive this benefit else it turns into a student loan.

  • Hard Little Machine

    BTW keep an eye on admission standards. Usually what happens when you advertise something as ‘free’ there’s a huge movement to drop all admission standards because they’re ‘racist’ or ‘sexist’ or whatnot. And hell, let’s see if once that happens, they open the floodgates to illiterate illegal aliens too.

    • Norman_In_New_York

      The New York City university system had free tuition until the end of the 1960s, but required a B average or above to gain admission. It was described as the “poor man’s Ivy League” and generated quite a few Nobel Prize winners.

      • Hard Little Machine

        Yes but those we’re in the days when a college degree didn’t end in -studies

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        And Thomas Sowell?

  • Frances

    Tuition was free in Slovakia, too, and may well still be. However, the standards were high and students were weeded out ruthlessly. In the foreign student program at the same uni, where tuition was NOT free, the foreign students were NOT weeded out so long as they met basic standards and continued paying. Good marks, however, were not automatic.