Tillerson: ‘Strategic patience’ policy with North Korea is over

U.S. relations with North Korea are about to enter a new phase, as Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told a news conference in Seoul that the policy of “strategic patience” with North Korea is ending and that the U.S. is exploring “a new range of security and diplomatic measures” where “nothing [is] off the table” – including military force.

  • Norman_In_New_York

    We should have taken out their erector sets 20 years ago.

    • Ed

      Let’s call that haircut “mohawk trending”

  • UCSPanther

    The two reasons no one has gone in to dung out that junkyard from the 1950s is both because of the destructive military chimp out, and we would have to foot the bill of rebuilding something that makes the old GDR of East Germany look prosperous in comparison.

    If Lil Kim the Fat keeps his stupidity with ICBMs up, that will have to change as we will have no choice but to forcibly disarm this cult compound masquerading as a nation.

    • Let Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, et al nuclearise.

      • FactsWillOut

        Agreed.

      • FactsWillOut

        Let Canada do the same, for that matter.

        • I have no idea why we haven’t.

          • FactsWillOut

            Because we’re populated by milksop faggots, I expect.

          • Probably.

          • FactsWillOut

            At least in the cities, that makes about 70% I think, maybe 80, I forget.

          • Oh, that glass bottom will fall out faster than they think.

          • shasta

            Canadian forces had nukes until 1984 according to wikipedia. Nowadays we just hand out flowers.

          • … crappy ones made in China.

  • FactsWillOut

    Nork threat level to the USA: Negligible.
    Saudi threat level to the USA: Clear, present, immanent and proven.

    Squirrel.

  • Gaylord Ponce

    I do believe the chubby zipperhead may be starting to get the message. He may be uts but some of those close to him aren’t. Prepare for a coup.

  • simus1

    A few neutron bombs set off at low altitude over the next party congress should be the most cost effective response.

    • FactsWillOut

      There are no longer any neutron bombs. Clinton saw to that.

  • Shebel

    This is frigging scary .
    It is like little boys fighting. .
    Bring it on!

    https://youtu.be/lTs6a0ORdQU

    • Shebel

      Would it Not make you PROUD if this was the —-
      Canadian Military Machine ?

      • FactsWillOut

        Yes it would.
        If only we had a Trump.

    • shasta

      I’m more impressed by results, not bravado.

  • Patience nothing.

    It’s just a byword for inaction.

    Start making China accountable for backing the rogue state that is North Korea.

    • FactsWillOut

      Perhaps we should stop backing the terror state of Saudi Arabia before we start throwing stones, hmmm?
      Glass houses, and all that.

      • That’s nice but we’re not talking about Saudi Arabia.

        • FactsWillOut

          Yeah, we’re talking about a pip-squeak regime that is no threat to us at all.
          There are much greater threats to us that are not being addressed.
          It’s like having one’s head in a guillotine and worrying about safety glasses for airborne dust, ie Insane.

          • This “pip-squeak” regime is China’s buffer, a useful idiot, if one will, for China’s belligerence.

            If you value trade and free movement in that region, it’s time to make China accountable for its action in the Korean Peninsula.

          • Shebel

            Diplomatically?

          • Won’t work.

          • FactsWillOut

            Sure it will. It’s just that diplomacy with the Norks entails airstrikes.

          • Put sanctions on China. Squeeze the sugar daddy.

          • Shebel

            That would be stupid.
            Do you know anything about Trade wars ?

          • Do you want China to stop or not?

          • FactsWillOut

            All we can do is saber-rattle.
            Maybe wipe out the Nork regime.

            We couldn’t fight China in her own backyard, even with conscription.

          • Sanctions, not a repeat of the same thing people have been doing since the late Fifties.

          • FactsWillOut

            I think tariffs are a better idea. Fight them on the economic front, yes, but not by sanctions. Tariffs work, sanctions do not.

          • Okay.

            Make them pay through the nose.

          • shasta

            “We couldn’t fight China in her own backyard”

            That would depend on how nasty you were willing to get.

          • FactsWillOut

            Look at our boondoggles in the ME. We don’t even have the parts to bomb a city to rubble anymore. Our faggot leaders whine about “collateral damages”, etc.
            We couldn’t even fight Vietnam, if you remember. The political will for that left the station a long time ago.
            Also, China is a nuclear superpower.

          • shasta

            Well I was thinking of whether you had the means or not. I am quite cognizant of the fact that no country in the west has the will to fight for anything any more and that we are just in a long slide into oblivion.

          • FactsWillOut

            It’s a crying shame, and a disgrace.
            I’m hoping something wakes us up.

          • FactsWillOut

            Who?
            Us, the USA, the EU?
            Canada is a pip-squeak.
            The US debt is in china’s hand, china could wreck the US currency overnight.
            The EU has it’s hands full of Muslims.

          • Then get used to the status quo.

            Stop complaining about anything and everything.

          • FactsWillOut

            I don’t care about that section of the world.
            China is not responsible for the decay of the west, and the creeping totalitarianism in Canada.

          • Really?

            Where are your household (like appliances) made?

            Who spies on our industry?

            Who does PM Hair-Boy admire and kow-tow to?

            Who drives up property prices?

          • FactsWillOut

            All done by our own government. If we de-regulated our own economy, and put a few protectionist tariffs in place, this would no longer be an issue.
            If one leaves one’s house unlocked, and leaves bags of money by the front door, one get’s what one has coming to him.
            Do not let the Canadian regime scapegoat another country for the problems our regime created themselves.

          • So it is our fault that the Chinese steal industrial secrets?

          • FactsWillOut

            Putting words in someones’ mouth is a lefty tactic, toots. You know better.

          • Let me cut and paste what you typed:

            “China is not responsible for the decay of the west …”

            Again: it is our fault that the Chinese steal industrial secrets?

          • Shebel

            That is True.

          • Indeed.

            This dance has gone on too long.

            New ideas have to be tried.

          • FactsWillOut

            I don’t value trade and free movement in that region. That’s mercantile BS. It is the regional players job to do that, not ours.

          • FactsWillOut

            Then Canada can make deals with regional powers there, or not, and sell our oil elsewhere.

          • With whom? China? The same country that causes trouble?

          • FactsWillOut

            Yep.
            There is nothing anyone on the planet can do to stop China from controlling that part of the world. China is a nuclear superpower on the order of the USSR. They could wipe out the USA and Europe in minutes.
            The best we can hope for is a cold/proxy war situation, and China will not permit that to happen on her doorstep.

          • And if someone told you that there is nothing one can do about the Uygers, that would be acceptable?

            No one hesitated to boycott Soviet or South African goods or alienate them in others ways.

            They can start doing that with China or get used to being owned by the bigwigs in Beijing.

          • FactsWillOut

            The US wasn’t so stupid to go trillions into debt owned by the USSR.
            We never should have sanctioned South Africa, apartheid was the right thing for the colonists to do.

          • But the US does have debt owned by China. Nothing can change that now but they can stop getting in deeper.

            Apartheid was sanctioned racism and nothing more. Like the Balkans, it did not to address deep-seated problems but only kept them under wraps.

          • FactsWillOut

            No, it was addressing them fine. It’s just that the globalist left didn’t like a white nation in Africa.
            In the Balkans, the locals were dealing with the Muslims in the best way possible, by slaughtering them, just like they do to us when given the chance.

          • I was referring to what happened after the state of Yugoslavia went defunct.

            The left would hate South Africa for any number of reasons. Apartheid was cruelty. The only thing is that now, leftists cannot blame apartheid for social problems that happened afterwards.

          • FactsWillOut

            The social problems are their goal. Its a feature, not a bug.

            The Balkans would have been better off if we had just left them alone.

          • The West largely stayed out of the Balkans.

            The issue wasn’t external involvement but how governments dealt with society at large.

    • FactsWillOut

      Remember when Japan was an industrial superpower? Theu industrialized, got fat, and then lazy very rapidly.
      Now think:
      The Chinese regime is much, much more ruthless than the post WW2 Jap regime. If they play their cards right, they could maintain a very powerful military/industrial base almost forever. It will entail pauperizing sections of their country periodically, but somehow I don’t think the Chinese regime is above that.
      So, in order to stop them there are two options, as i see it:
      1. Hope that they make a big strategic mistake and wreck their military/industrial base.
      2. Have a nuclear war.

      • Shebel

        Suicide is out.
        Strategic mistake is OUT.

        Trump really does know what he is doing.

        • FactsWillOut

          I don’t think a small cruise strike on the Nork leadership would bug the Chinese too much.

          • Shebel

            What is the Nork ?

          • FactsWillOut

            Short for North Korean.

          • Shebel

            You gotta be kidding.
            It would bug them a lot.
            As it should.

          • FactsWillOut

            I don’t think so. The Nork regime, while pliant enough, is also a bit of a thorn in China’s side, re immigrants, etc.
            While it is not in China’s interest to see North and South Korea re-integrate, the mere removal of the existing Nork regime, and consequent bi-lateral negotiations with the South Korean regime as to how to deal with the remnants of North Korea are at least a possibility.
            The nice thing about China, is that they are greedy. Perhaps they would even let the 2 Koreas re-integrate with a good strong commitment to let Chinese industry play a large role in re-building North Korea. There are no doubt large swaths of resources there that the Norks don’t know about, but that the Chinese and South Koreans could exploit.

            With the correct application of force and diplomacy, a win/win/win for the North Korean population, the South Korean regime and the Chinese is possible.
            If too many players get involved, the possibility of a win/win/win outcome drops dramatically.

      • The paper dragon is already limping.

        Why not finish it off?

        Are people content with the Chinese undercutting everyone? Industrial espionage? Currency-fixing?

        If the only answer is to do nothing then stop complaining and get used it.

        Or start – even incrementally – making slow cuts to bleed China out. There are ways to punish China for aiding North Korea. One might as well try them:

        http://freekorea.us/2017/03/17/will-china-cooperate-on-n-korea-sanctions-it-depends-on-which-china-you-mean/#sthash.ak4lVhv6.dpbs

  • Slickfoot

    Say goodbye to John Effin’ Kerry Kim Fat Un, and say hello to T-Rex, he’s different.

  • Barrington Minge

    Time to squash this little fat-fuck.