Philippines to suspend joint exercises and patrols with US military

The Philippine defense chief has told the US military that plans for joint patrols and naval exercises in the disputed South China Sea have been put on hold, the first concrete break in defense cooperation after months of increasingly strident comments by the country’s new president.

Delfin Lorenzana, the defense secretary, also said that 107 US troops involved in operating surveillance drones against Muslim militants would be asked to leave the southern part of the country once the Philippines acquires those intelligence-gathering capabilities in the near future.

So The Philippines courts Russia and China, how much you want to bet their Muslim problem gets solved by their new friends?

  • bob e

    just a great idea to loose SUBIC BAY again ..

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    Can we FINALLY disengage from the Phillipines once and forever?
    No more visas for starters and can we tax their remittances by 50%?
    Let them run to China and Russia.
    Their loss, not ours.
    This a-hole is running the Hugo Chavez playbook.
    Screw him, and screw the Philippines.

    • shasta

      I’m not a big fan of the Philippines, but just how many allies can the U.S. piss off or abandon before there is none left?

      • canminuteman

        They are more dependents than allies. They don’t bring much to the table, and if they weren’t an ally the Americans wouldn’t need to defend them.

        • shasta

          Dependents or allies, it doesn’t matter which. The U.S. is losing influence, and that limits their ability to control events. That, combined with their shrinking economic strength and eventually they will end up a has been power like Britain or France.

          • Shebel

            So when Russia ,as a display of Power , sets up Military bases in South Viet Nam and Cuba—–
            Nothing to worry about—

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            Been there, done that.

          • Will Quest

            ☭ Vladimir Putin ☭ to JUST-IN , I want the arctic & Nunavut too? Is that how you spell it? Thee-hee-heee……….

  • Duterte trusts China more than the US.

    This won’t end well.

    • canminuteman

      You could be right the the Americans don’t have a good track record of being reliable allies.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      It will end great O.K..
      Here’s the deal as I see it.
      His being a jackass totally gives us an out on having to confront China, ever, about the South China Sea issue.
      The Philippines can become a vassal state of the ChiComs and I can’t figure out why it even matters to us one way or the other.
      Let ’em go!

      • North Korea is already China’s vassal state. Why give it more?

        It’s time for South Korea, Taiwan and Japan to nuclearise.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Not all countries, or even people, deserve freedom, so maybe the Philippines fall into that category?
          They (the Phillipine people) have had many, many years to get it right, and so I’m kind of of the mind to say “screw it” and realize that they will never “get it right” and they can try living under the Chinese yoke for a couple of hundred years. Maybe it will suit them, or maybe not, but I don’t care. They are not worth a single drop of American blood.

          Well, if we are going to go there (nukes for everyone), then we need to recognize Taiwan again.

          • Of course one could argue that a shitty government doesn’t necessarily mean all the people are shitty. I mean, since you bring up “deserve” and all that. But, yeah, totally over nation-building.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            No ‘Mamba, I say shitty governments are almost always a byproduct of a shitty people.
            I used to only kind of believe that, but now I’m ‘all-in’ on the concept.

            Now, before I go off the deep-end, and before anyone can scream “OBAMA”, my retort is that we were repupulated by just enough shitty-people from shitty-cultures that would allow an Obama and a Hillary to happen.
            Yes Mexico and Central America, I’m looking squarely at YOU.

          • You’d have to concede that there’s a sort of dialectical relationship between government and governed.

          • markerc .

            So, are you calling Americans a shitty people now? And, with Trudeau, Canada as well? Take responsibility for your government….you can’t blame it all on immigrants!

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            Well, yeah you can.
            You completely can.
            Take a look at our demographic change since 1976-1980 and today.
            We have a hundred million people in America that were not born here plus their children.

          • markerc .

            Your numbers don’t tell us the whole story….I live in Alberta and we have lots of shitty people here, but most of them are white, and I would say the same about the US….other than the BLM assholes, the majority of the left shitheads are white guilt idiots…so, blame immigrants all you want, fact is that the shitty white leftards are the biggest problem…

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            I’ll throw you a curve ball.
            What makes you think that you have not been infected with the same PC virus that introduces the same kinds of out-group blind spots?
            It seems like you are trying too hard to “not look racist” by singling out liberal whites.
            Non-white immigrants are 80% of the time guaranteed Democrat Party voters.
            They don’t vote for anything other than larger government.

          • markerc .

            Ha! I have my own prejudices, however I don’t throw a blanket over all non-whites. My experience is different. Most of the immigrants that I know, both in Canada and in the US are of the conservative variety…as a matter of fact, some Filipinos I met in California are Trump supporters….so I’m not pc, and don’t try to be….I don’t have time for that shit. Meanwhile, Duterte is an asshole, much like Trump….however I support both of them, though I think Duterte is being stupid with this move…thanks for the psychoanalysis. It was free right? 🙂

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            You are giving me lots to work with, but why deny nonwhite immigrant voting trends with antidotes about ‘good immigrants’ that are already accounted for?
            Do you really think that the serious white haters are hanging out with you?

          • markerc .

            WTF are you talking about?

            “Do you really think that the serious white haters are hanging out with you?”

            Care to elaborate? Or are you just slinging as much bs as you can? No wonder so many people think Americans are pompous assholes….you could be the poster child. Why do you think I care what “white haters” think of me?

            Thus far, I have two choices….my lying eyes, or your “nonwhite voting trends”….which you tell me are 80% democrat….any links?

          • Jabberwokk

            Not Philippinos who are predominantly catholic and conservative. They also seem very hardworking. Secondly the questions stand that most if the ideological foundations of left thinking are guilt laden whites. Minorities have there own issues that they need to be held to sure. 100%. Marx, Engles, Darwin, Freud, Hitler, Stalin, Kant, Wilde, Alinsky, Clinton and the list goes on.

          • North Koreans are a by-product of decades of a dynastic tyranny. Their southern neighbours threw off the yoke of militaristic rule for democratically elected leaders who have ONE five-year term to screw up their country.

            No, not every country has it together but not every country has a chance to get it together, either.

            Just saying.

            (And, yes, Mexico is done for.)

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            Without getting too metaphysical on the subject I will say that deserving individuals may “deserve” freedom, whereas societies which do not organically free themselves, or are incapable of doing so, do not deserve freedom.
            Populations with an average IQ of 90 or less can never be totally free, (according to Professor Helmuth Nyborg) in that they cannot support any form of representative democracy.


          • Which would disqualify any of the world wars we fought.

            India was once a Third World country. Now it is a major player.

            Who would have thought it?

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            It would. But would have but a German victory in WWI have been the worst thing in the world?

          • Wow…

            Just… wow…

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            WWI not WWII
            Without WWI WWII does not happen.

          • And who started the first war again?

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            It seems that the English and Russians actually provoked it.

          • But not Kaiser Wilhelm.


          • Drunk_by_Noon

            He wasn’t blameless if that’s what you mean, but he wasn’t the only one agitating for war.
            Look into what France, the U.K. and Russia were upto as well.

          • And yet that is what he wanted.

            He was a megalomaniac.

          • Everyone deserves freedom. People live under tyranny don’t deserve that even if some of them are as thick as whale omelettes.

            The problem with severing ties of allies is that when one needs an ally, it will have none left.

            This is why Trump should start getting a clue and play nice. Make overtures to Rodrigo “Senor Nutty” Duterte before Obama screws up civilian life as well as presidential life.

            Furthermore, if Asian countries knew what was good for them, they would form a new pan-Asian alliance.

  • Millie_Woods

    The existing order is coming unglued. “Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold”.

    • Shebel

      What centre ? There is no Centre.
      There is only Surrender.

      • Millie_Woods

        It wasn’t always that way. In fact it wasn’t that many years ago, well within my lifetime, that people in foreign lands were clambering to be a part of our great alliance. Though born and raised within it, I no longer feel an attachment. I’m not sure that is a failure of mine or the alliance.

      • Millie_Woods

        It was not long ago, well within my lifetime, that countries were clambering to join our great alliance. Though born and raised within it, I no longer feel the attachment. I’m not sure yet if that’s a failure of mine or if the alliance has lost it’s way. That’s the centre I’m referring to, and Yeats’ poem also speaks to a feeling of lost faith and impending calamity. Maybe it’s the same event.

  • Denis

    another victory for obummer’s foreign policy

  • Norman_In_New_York

    A lot of working girls will be disappointed.

  • caliroxanne

    Who gives a sh*t about them. When China takes them over, I’m sure they’ll come crying for Uncle Sam to save the day. I’m not against us helping out those who appreciate us, but defending all these countries who don’t like us, such as the arrogant, pompous anti-American European countries we’ve been defending since WW2, to the South Koreans and most definitely the Arabs, is wrong. Resources could be much better used here at home and with our true allies.