Fort McMurray Blaze

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  • BillyHW

    I hope everything is spared, except the mosque.

    • Heh;)

    • During the big fire I accidentally the mosque.

      • Miss Trixie

        What?

        *scratches head*

        • It’s an internet joke – you leave out the most important, and damning, word. In this case, so BCF doesn’t get in trouble.

          • Miss Trixie

            Oh, ok. Let me try! I was thinking it’s probably due to again.

            Or another clear example that can’t be trusted.

            Hey – this is fun!

    • Canadian

      I was jut hoping that the mosque was destroyed…

  • Frances

    Prayers and best wishes to the residents of Fort Mac and those fighting the fires. Big question is: why were these blazes not contained earlier?

    • lolwut?

      It’s been going for 3 days at least, someone’s got some explaining to do.

      • 3 days? Wow.

        • Frances

          Agreed – our new improved government needs to explain why no early response to this one.

          • barryjr

            Frances there was and things were being controlled until the wind shifted and a 4th fire started. Maybe have a little information before using this as a political club.

          • Frances

            Understood, but given winds are prone to shift, wouldn’t it have been prudent to make an all-out push to aggressively fight the fire that was there as well as try to set up fire-breaks to anticipate wind shifts?

        • lolwut?

          It hasn’t been in town for 3 days, it started out as a small blurb in the news and now this.

      • barryjr

        Fires started Sunday afternoon.

    • Rosenmops

      I heard the wind came up suddenly. That can make a fire explode.

      • vimy

        I live a few hours drive from Fort Mac and I can tell you we get strong westerly winds almost every afternoon after a hot day and today was no exception.

        Tomorrow a cold front is moving in and that always comes with stronger winds along the divide between the hot and cold fronts.

  • I do hope people get far away. If the fire does not get one (and people have described fire as an animal that can leap), smoke will.

  • BillyHW

    Wow, looks like my friends house is about to go down in flames.

  • Rosenmops

    There is only one highway going through the town. Apparently it is gridlock traffic in both directions. And for the people going north, there is nothing up there but work camps and such.

    • barryjr

      I was told alot of the camps that are partially empty because of lack of work are taking in evacuees.

    • BillyHW

      The winter road up north is closed now. The only way out is south on the highway. Most people are at the work sites now waiting it out.

      • Rosenmops

        I hope there is no loss of life. And all the animals get out.

  • barryjr

    I was there and I’m glad i decided to leave town yesterday afternoon instead of today. The big fire southwest of town started about 2 Sunday afternoon, I looked out the back window of our companies staff house and saw a plume of smoke but just thought it was somebody burning brush piles. Two hours later the sky was full of smoke and the sun was being blocked out occasionally. By 8pm there was smoke drifting through the Gregoire area of town and the highway north of town was temporarily closed due to the fire getting too close to the highway. At 9:30 that night the Gregoire area (on the hill at the south end of town was evacuated) and I ended up having to move. To the Thickwood area north of town and across the river. Yesterday morning the wind had shifted and everything was moving south on the west side of the highway and the businesses in Gregoire were able to open. I talked to our dispatcher this afternoon and she said a 4th fire had started up and that was when I heard the city was being evacuated. To Frances two of the 3 original fires were contained and the fire crews were working on the third one when things went for a shit.

    • Rosenmops

      How will all those people get out? Must be gridlock on the highway. I’m glad to hear you made it out. Are you in Edmonton?

      • barryjr

        If the Highway is closed they don’t. The airport is on the south end of town near the main fire and planes can’t come in because of ash and smoke.

        • Rosenmops

          I haven’t heard the highway is closed. Just that there are massive traffic jams. Apparently the RCMP are going up and down the line of traffic with gas cans for people who run out of gas. Seems as if they should reverse directions on the lanes heading into town and let people drive out on those lanes.

          • barryjr

            Just to show the neighbourhoods

          • Rosenmops

            Apparently the Beacon Hill neighbourhood has burnt down, and the Abasand is half burnt. Is MacDonald Island the down town area?

          • barryjr

            It’s right down there. It is the combination arena, pools, curling club,library ball diamonds etc. Other than the small causeway it’s an island.

          • Thanks

    • Wow.

  • Gary

    The good news it the Neil Young and Leo Decaprio won’t be flying over head to bash canada’s Oil industry .

  • ontario john

    Gee, Great Leader Trudeau rushed to that fake fire at the Peterborough mosque. Will he be rushing to Fort McMurray? Probably not, he might get soot on his custom made clothes, and all those white people in distress don’t interest him.

  • John

    Back in the late 50s a coal town in rural Pennsylvania had to be abandoned because underground coal seams had caught fire. Those seams are still burning today.

    This may sound like a silly question, but is it possible the tar sands themselves could ignite? If the heat from these forest fires becomes very, very intensive, could that actually happen?

  • After the Kelowna fire (Okanagan Mountain Park fire) in 2003, certain facts came out. The first was that a kicker sprinkler on the roof of a house can save it even faced with a fire front. Second was the necessity of building a wide firebreak around a residential area, and the third was the need for “wildland fire fighting vehicles.” BC fire services, which originally disparaged the sprinkler idea, now carries them in a kit for threatened homes. The second lesson seems to have been forgotten and no municipalities, to my knowledge in BC or Alberta own a self-protected, six-wheel drive interface fire fighting vehicle.

    I’ll be really surprised if ANY pictures of firefighters fighting the fire in a residental area emerge. In Kelowna, there are none because no actual fire fighting was done. You can google this fact, if you don’t believe me.

    • barryjr

      You are probably correct in one way. FMM like other recently built up residential areas had small yards with houses built very close to their neighbors, I would be surprised if there is more than 15 feet between houses.While I am not a firefighter I cannot see firefighters being sent into this environment with a huge blaze due to safety reasons because of the risk of the fire jumping past them and trapping them. I would think that firefighters would be outside the actual fires trying to keep them from spreading to other areas. I take my hat off to those RCMP, Firefighters and EMS trying to help others be safe.