Question for the BCF readership

I do language tutoring from time to time. Would it be wrong of me to work with one (or more) of these “Syrian” “refugees”? I’m leaning towards yes, it would: on the other hand, they’re here, and they have a better chance of not being a burden on everybody if they at least pick up some of the language. I hope, ultimately, that they’ll go home. But teaching them some English would do nothing to prevent that. Plus, I admit, I’d be curious to interact with such a person.

There’s no money in it, it’s not about that. Anyway, feedback appreciated.

  • There should be money in it for you. I am more upset to think the Gubment expects you to pick up the slack for their misadventure.

    That said I see nothing wrong with you doing so.

    • There should be a great opportunity to “learn” lots about their original culture.

      The more one knows about something the better they can report about it.

    • WalterBannon

      If you truly see nothing wrong with this, then I suggest changing the name of this blog to Blazing Liberal Supporter…

      You have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

      • So you’re agin’ it.

        • WalterBannon

          yes, big time.

          Its a simple question of ethics and where do you stand, with Trudeau and his policies or against him.

          If you voted for Trudeau then fine, support his policies by doing this.

          But you can not be against him on a “soapbox” like this blog and then hypocritically participate in propping up his administration by being one of his foot-soldiers.

          • Yeah, that’s kind of the way I was thinking when I did the post.

          • WalterBannon

            See, you already had the answer. Just listen to that voice in your head that said it did not seem right. Things like this really are black and white when you take all the noise out of the equation. People who think things are always some sort of shade of grey just have not done the thinking needed to get clarity on the question.

          • LauraS

            First of all…hats off to you for your volunteer work. I mean that sincerely. You have a good heart!

            I understand your angst about contributing towards the Syrian “refugees.” My former church–and many of my friends there–have sponsored a (Muslim) Syrian family. I refuse to participate in ANY fundraisers that will benefit this family, or any events that will encourage others to sponsor “refugees.” I don’t hate this family–but I think the “refugee” program is profoundly dangerous. (Thank you Duh!-stin Trudeau!)

            While it is truly commendable that you want to help, I agree with those who say you should “walk the walk” when it comes to Muslim invasion of Western democracies.

            I hope you will find another way to put your tremendous skills to work for a better cause. Ultimately, the call is yours. You’ll know you made the right decision if you don’t have second thoughts or niggling doubts. πŸ™‚

          • k1962

            I feel the same way about my synagogue. Why jump on the Syrian Muslim refugee bandwagon? Plenty of other worthy people in the world to sponsor!

          • Okay, okay. I’ll pass.

          • bverwey

            It’s the credibility issue that has me on the “nay” vote. Stand or fall I will not decide that for you but it will leave an impression with me.

          • Observer

            The most important English language phrases for a “refugee” to learn:
            1. You are a racist;
            2. That is Islamophobic;
            3. My family deserves better housing:
            4. It is racist not to give us more money;
            5. If you get us more we will vote Liberal;
            6. You need to give us even more if we are to vote Liberal again;
            7. You have offended Allah;
            8. You have offended Islam;
            9. You have offended me;
            10. You have offended my family’s honour;
            11. We need government money to build a mosque here;
            12. It is racist not to provide halal food here at the (school, food program, goverment cafeteria, etc);
            13. It is racist to provide pork here at the (school, food program, goverment cafeteria, etc);
            14. It is racist not to provide a prayer room for us here;
            15. Is is racist not to have a separate pool day for our women;
            16. You owe me the jizyya you dhimmi;
            17. It is racist not to give us government jobs first;
            18. Where is the welfare check office;
            19. Where is the disability check office;
            20. It is racist not to let the Imam have a room to lead prayers in this school;
            21. Disbelievers need to get out of our way on the sidewalk;
            22. You have broken the Sharia laws;
            23. Your laws and courts don’t matter for us only the Sharia laws matter;
            24. We’re your new neighbours, now send out your daughter.

          • Yo Mama

            I have often noticed groups of their men walking down the sidewalk here in Scarborough who force everybody else to walk onto the street or grass to get around them.

            What’s with that?

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    If there is “no money in it for you” then why go to any time and trouble to aid your colonizers for free?
    They can do far more damage to Westren Civ if they learn English, rather than speaking their only their native language.
    What about your personal safety?
    Sure, you will only be instructing women and girls, but what if one of their father’s, brothers, activists doesn’t like how you are doing it?

    My first inclination is to have zero to do with any of these people, on any level.
    That’s just me, but I’m open to hear what others think as well.

    • Brenda2600

      I agree with you. I would be more afraid of the men in their lives not appreciating what you are doing for them. If you tell them something they are not allowed to know, what happens.

    • I’m not too worried about that. Maybe I’m just naive. But it does feel like enabling.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        Enabling the government?
        I think so.

        After the San Bernardino shooting where the hubby and wife killed the very people that threw them a baby shower a few months before, I put no more faith in the actions of a Muslum than I do predicting the next move of a wild animal.
        I think you misjudge how much they are programmed to hate non Muslims.

        I think the personal safety issue alone is enough to say no, and the rest of the stuff is just icing on the cake.

        • lolwut?

          There was a study in Canada that showed that Muslims
          already here are becoming more religious.

          I’m pretty sure that has a lot to do with Islams successes in Europe and ISIS.

    • Actually, there’s no guarantee that it would be women, although the devout men probably avoid infidel harlots such as myself.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        Infidel harlots are the best kind!

        • Kell


  • useless opinion

    If it is worth doing, it is worth doing for money. That aside, these are interlopers who despise us for whom that we are. They will always hate us, except for the Christian Syrians, Assyrians, and Circassians, if there are any left alive. The rest will start their daily treks to the welfare offices and the humans rights tribunals to make their money and send it back to downtown Isis to be used against Assad. Now if these folks move to Bumflock Canada to start their lives, then have at it. Teach away, but none of them will, it is straight to urban Canada and get those liberal party cards and attempt to illegally vote next time around. Just wait for changes in our Citizenship Act to not only FastTrack these folks, but to not have them pass an exam. It is coming and soon.

    • Exile1981

      Trudeau already announced they will be fast tracked to vote within 6 months and that they will not have to pass the english or french language competency section.

      • Alain

        The sums up pretty much what took place in my riding during the last election thanks to Elections Canada, so now short-pants will make it official.

  • SMC_BC

    Allahu Akbar doesn’t need translation. πŸ˜‰

    • lolwut?

      They may face a fine in Quebec though.,

  • Kathy Prendergast

    I’m an English language teacher too and I admit I am conflicted about teaching people I do not believe to be true “refugees”. Most of not all of these families (the government only accepts families, no single men thank God) were not living in Syria but in other safe countries which had allowed them to stay, so how could they be considered refugees? On the other hand, for any job I accept I am professionally obligated to teach whoever signs up for the class. I wouldn’t fault anyone for volunteering to teach them. It’s useful experience to put on your resume, if nothing else.

    • lolwut?

      There are plenty of single men, that’s a lie the media has been spewing
      much like they are in Europe.

      The majority of the Trudeaus’s migrants I have been seeing in Vancouver have been single, young males.

      At least 30 have passed through an agency here in Vancouver that people I know work for.

    • I have a relative who taught ESL to some fat and clearly bigoted Muslimas.

      You could draw a line to divide as to who wanted to be in Canada and who wanted to be Canadian.

      • V10_Rob

        Mamba, were I in your shoes, I’d be willing to cut some slack to the ones that genuinely do want to join the West and leave the Old Country behind. The ones with a chip on their shoulder, expecting a kufir like you to be their servant and indulge them, **** ’em.

        I keep thinking of well-meaning fools in Europe. Old men and women setting up tables and chairs to serve a meal to young and able-bodied migrants content to lounge around and play with their smartphones as the natives work. Real refugees should be demonstrating gratitude and a willingness to pitch in and help.

  • Millie_Woods

    I was morally conflicted until I read the comments. I’m now opposed, for what it’s worth.

  • Richard K

    Better you teach them than some “Social Justice” Wanker

  • Brett_McS
  • lolwut?

    The only positive I could see coming out of this is managing to get footage of any nasty behavior typical of Muslims.

    Bring a concealed camera and wear things like a Star of David necklace or large cross., bring a ham sandwiches for lunch. maybe read a copy of the Jerusalem Post
    where they can see it……

    Be creative but not too blatant. get any reactions from other non-muslims
    as well, if they full SJW on you then all the better.

    • Brett_McS

      Black__Mamba being a non-male infidel in an authority position would be enough of a trigger to the usual suspects.

  • Half Judean (Destroyer-Drone)

    As Drunk_by_Noon said, you’ll only enable them to do far more damage to your society. It won’t prevent anything, it will only give them the proper skills to calm down and soften the inevitable blow. Promising a fantasy world in English, while conquering it in Arabic.
    If these ‘fugees ever manage to gain fluency, they’ll put it to ‘good’ use, you can count on that.

    It’s a wrong idea on so many levels, from the smaller to the larger picture. Not just on the societal level, but also for your own personal safety.

    To put it crudely, you’ll only replace the arabic scriptures on your grave for a latin one.

    As someone who’s lived near moslems for a long time, and who is (alas) still living in a specific region with a heavy concentration of said mohammedans, there is one golden rule which predominates first and foremost: the less you have to do with them, the better. Take it from me.

    Any muslim whom I’ve had the ill fortune of becoming acquainted with, I did my utmost to shun. Men and women alike, poorly or well educated. Especially the well educated ones.

  • Brenda

    I agree with Richard K: better you than some social justice wanker. What slim chance there is of these ‘refugees’ being assimilated and civilized rests with people like you: if all they meet at first are grievance mongerers who tell them to cling their backward customs for dear life, that’s what they’ll do.

    That said, is there any way you could give priority to non-Muslims? I vaguely remember years ago that the professional atheists at the Centre for Inquiry ( did some kind of volunteering with new immigrants who felt uncomfortable about all the settlement programs which expected them to be religious.

  • Ford Prefect


  • If this is not a charity, there should be some kind of compensation.

    That is, IF you feel that these individuals wish to be useful and open to Canadian society.

    • Well, they give me a gift certificate every few months.

      • That’s kind of nice.

      • Kell

        …maybe they’ll give you needle and thread to sew your head back on, too!
        There is NOTHING about islam to be trusted!

  • I cannot advise you, but I would not do it – compensated or not. Actually, I could not do it. My hatred runs that deep.

  • As long as they’re Christianized first I see no problem.

  • One day after they’ve gained your trust they’ll knock on your door and when you open it they will slaughter everyone in the house, Γ  la San Bernardino.

  • dogwonder

    I say go for it, over time you can gauge what they really think of their New Country, will this batch be a remake of Lebanon 2?

  • Maxsteele

    If there is no money in it then screw it. That means you are giving away your skill set for free. What are you, an altruist?

  • dance…dancetotheradio

    I see the possibilities for misdirection are very appealing.

  • FactsWillOut

    For what it’s worth, I think you’d be needlessly putting yourself at risk.
    Surely there are other immigrants, like the Chinese or Dutch, or whatever, you could teach, if your doing it for free?

    • Oh, I think if I said “I’d rather not work with a Syrian” I’d be put on a hatey-hate-hater list of very bad people and all my time volunteering would be down the drain. Easier in that case just to opt out completely.

      • FactsWillOut

        Even if you said you were scared, and started crying, and all that jazz…? Play it right, and they could treat you as a victim of evil right-wing brainwashing, and try to “cure” you…by giving you a diminutive single Syrian woman to teach, maybe?

        • I’m not really scared. It’s not like they’re coming home with me. Plus, I’m only able to cry when a cat dies.

          • FactsWillOut

            I didn’t say you were scared. I merely suggest you say you were scared. You mean you can’t turn it on and off like most women I know? Amazing!

          • Kell

            …until they do! You don’t cry over dogs? LOL

  • mauser 98

    let Wynne or Baby Doc hire a tutor
    after $$billions pissed ,stolen , squandered, endless lies and tax hikes
    staggering incompetence while daily insulting the taxpayers

    … to hell with them

  • moraywatson

    Muslims are to be marginalized at every opportunity. Therefore you should only accept the tutoring if you vow to proselytize the “refugees” into apostasy as an integral part of your interaction with them. (For instance, no hijabs during lessons.)

  • Who cares? It’s your business — the last time I checked Canada had freedom of association. It would be a sad thing indeed if a free speech blog didn’t likewise recognize freedom of association. Unless the student starts asking you the correct terminology for bomb-making ingredients in English or how to properly compose a violent manifesto etc., I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

  • WalterBannon

    They should get no help from anyone who is against Trudeau’s policies.

    Otherwise you are voting by your actions to support Trudeau.

    Its that simple.

  • DaninVan

    Maybe CSIS could be cajoled into coughing up a little remuneration? πŸ˜‰

  • Mal

    Doing good works is a commendable thing. Except, that is, when the risk of “unexpected” bad things happening as a result increases.
    Given the facts you have stated, I can see no good reason to do it, Mamba; your curiosity (and clearly large heart) notwithstanding.
    Conversely, many of the readers here have presented more than a few compelling reasons not to.
    Continue to do your good works where they will do the most good!

    • It’s tough being a saint, I tell ya πŸ™‚

  • disqusW6sf

    I agree w/Ricardojaime.

  • Thinking From First Principles

    Teach using Bible as your reading text. Get something easy like the NIV and have the person read directly what Jesus said and did. The Sermon on the Mount is a good place to start. Or the 3rd chapter of John.

    • Somehow I doubt the management would be cool with that.

      • True but we would adore you for it;)

        • CodexCoder

          Our church provides ESL training for free, and we used Bible verses as part of the training. One person complained anonymously, and threatened us with the HRC. The church complied and the argument was made that we are still showing Christian love by doing the training. I have no problem with doing the lessons, but if it is for free, we should be able to have some say over the content and how it is taught without outside intervention (as long as it is not unlawful). If someone doesn’t like it, they can feel free to avail themselves of the ESL training with another institution for a fee.

          Only my opinion. I am not a fan of the HRC or its arbitrary,
          quasi-judicial rulings.

      • There are subtler ways of “deprogramming” someone from blind obedience to ideology than smacking a Bible down on the table.

        How about a good history book? — not too many people from that area of the world have access to facts about history, especially Western, and you might be the only venue for that because even our own educational system is increasingly dominated by ideologues and revisionists on the Left.

      • eMan14

        Muslims do believe in Jesus. He just happens to be not on par with Mo.

        • moraywatson

          Then they don’t believe in Jesus, because Mo is the anti-Christ.

  • Walt

    Shit fuckin’ No! But if you must, here’s some food for thought:

  • kkruger71

    I’d take a different approach than what I see in the other comments on here, though I do see their points. What I would say though is not to do it through any organizational system but on an individual basis, that way you can get a feel for the person and see if you think they deserve your help.
    Believe me, I am against this “refugee” scam as much as anyone can be (go back and find the story of my run-in I’ve already had with a group of them), but it really does come down to the individual. That’s why I find this different than most of the examples other people are talking about such as fund raising; that is supporting the overall cause, this is trying to keep a person you find acceptable from being a burden on the rest of society.

  • eMan14

    I have not read the comments here.. just too many, and I’m getting too little sleep for the work I’m doing now. But I would go ahead and do it. You would get a feel for how the people are.. first hand. That is invaluable. And maybe a little something of you could rub off on them.
    I work at the airport and took part in an influx of some of these ‘”refugees”. I certainly didn’t get the impression these were people in a desperate situation. They seem healthy, calm, and were better dressed than I would be. I saw no indication of them be traumatized. What I didn’t get a chance to do was talk to them.

  • You’ll probably get raped.

  • Brian Jones

    You’ve got a great heart, Mamba, in wanting to help, but I’d have to agree with Walter and the others.

    Are there any ways that you can manage to specifically help Christian refugees? Might be easier to do that through a church rather than a tutoring organization, but that way you’d still be helping someone who’s genuinely in need and wanting to be here for non-hejira/jihad reasons.

  • dance…dancetotheradio

    I will tutor anyone in math for free.
    I won’t take money for it.

  • Man_with_Hat

    Mamba, perhaps the answer is to help a refugee who isn’t muslim. I can give you a contact for the Yezidis or a local Christian family?

  • El Martyachi

    Pretty deep stuff Mambs. Will keep you posted if I ever find principles and attempt to adhere to them. Don’t hold yer breath.