Ex-Muslim asks: Will Islam Reform Like Christianity Did?

I love this guy. I know some people strongly dislike atheists. I have no particular problem with them: if you disagree, disagree, big deal, no one’s stopping you. He analyzes Islam consistently and very well.

  • Granted the guy is searching, he’s trying. But I don’t take lessons in theology from atheists. I also don’t accept 19th Century Darwinian evolution (which has been rendered defunct by modern evolutionary genetics) — no scientist has ever demonstrated monkeys evolving into humans, any more than David Suzuki’s fruit fly experiments demonstrated fruit flies evolving into eagles.

    And “Christianity” did not reform — the Roman Church reformed because it had an “unholy” alliance with the Roman State. It’s precisely that sort of alliance that secular atheists are seeking to establish today with religion by secularizing religion, and turning secularism into an “ism” itself enforced by the State.

    All Islam has to do to reform is rid itself of involuntary and violent enforcement of it’s belief system through the State. Faith must be voluntary — across the board. “God”, whoever you believe him to be, is not a dictator — he allows humans to exercise free will, the latter of which is a natural human characteristic.

    • The so-called Reformation reformed nothing as new sects were formed. The Catholic Church simply fixed the the problems in its midst.

      There are various theological problems in Islam (too many to go through right here and right now) but until Islam’s adherents address them, how can they have any sort of spiritual peace or understanding?

  • Brett_McS

    The Bible is acknowledged to have been actually written by men, so Christians and Jews are generally OK with having different versions and inaccuracies here and there. However the Koran is claimed to have been literally written by Allah so it’s a little hard to reconcile that claim with the many different versions that have been discovered. I suspect that will be a key fact going forward. Not that the fanatics will change, but as economists will tell you it’s what happens at the margin (between apostates and fanatics) that is important.

  • Achmed

    The Q’uran is perfect being the words of Allah and are immutable!

    Only apostates would want to “reform it” and there are punishments for those under the Shari’a.

  • xavier


    O really? Then explain the doctrine of abrogation. Also in Islam God is capricious because he’s pure will. So how do you explain the Satancv verses in the quran? Or Aisha’s statement that a goat ate the sura on stoning?
    . So much for immutability

    • k2

      Isn’t one of the 99 (or is it 100) names for Allah “the Great Deceiver”? Doesn’t the koran assure us of Allah being just that – the greatest of deceivers; that is, liars? So if one takes the koran at its word (not a wise thing to do, of course), nothing Allah says can be believed anyway since he’s a liar and his word is worthless: Only a fool would deal with such a being and expect any promises or agreements to be honored by him.

  • David J. White

    Since the Reformation in Western Christianity led to an in increase in Biblical literalism, a hardening of positions on both sides, and a century of religious wars, I think an argument can be made that the emergence of radical Islam IS the Reformation in Islam.

    • Brett_McS

      A return to sources in Christianity means a church which is divorced from “Caesar” with no interest in politics and no political influence (much to the annoyance of many in the church who want to have secular influence).

      A return to sources in Islam is the installation of the Caliphate – the very exemplar of political power.

    • Then what is being reformed?


  • Hard Little Machine

    No. It’s a virus, a disease, a cancer.

  • coaster6623

    We are witnessing the reformation of Islam occurring today. During the last 1400 years most muslims were living in their traditional homelands, they were mostly illiterate, and knowledge of their faith was gained by word of mouth. Today, they’re reading the Koran and learning for themselves what it reveals. It’s no difference from 15th century Europe when the Gutenberg press opened up the bible to the masses.