You Have to Ask the Right Question

Europe Islam tree ropeQ: Was it morally wrong for the United States and Canada to imprison their citizens of Japanese ancestry during World War II, and confiscate their property?

  • Ron MacDonald

    It’s better to be safe than sorry.

    • Yes it is. But Justin doesn’t think so.

      • This argument is exceptional. It defines the “Islamic problem” quite well.

        The big problem with the argument is; progressives with multi-culti mindsets will not allow themselves the luxury of following the entire argument. They will allow their definition of “racism” to stop the logical progression in its tracts.

        The biggest problem faced today about the reality of Islam is, a collective mindset, straight jacketed, with dogma over fact.

        Still the argument is exceptional. I hope it is widely distributed.

      • Maggat

        Ain’t that the truth.

    • V10_Rob

      Funny how the progs love to trot that excuse out for far more nebulous problems, with little to no proof that their solution will make anyone safer. Just look at the panicked spending on ‘fighting climate change’.

  • moraywatson

    The “perpetual suicide machine” illustration is spot on.

  • Yo Mama

    Internment yes, confiscation of property no.

  • favill

    I still remember the story that my grandmother told me of when she was a young woman in Japanese-occupied Manila. Her older brother was a gardener at the US Embassy before the war, who worked with another gardener who happened to be Japanese. After the invasion of the Philippines and the subsequent occupation of Manila, the Japanese gardener turned out to be a full colonel in the Japanese Imperial Army…My grandmother knows this because when Japanese soldiers were going to execute my great-uncle (he was a fighting-age male at the time)–they implored this colonel to save him–and to his credit he did save my Lolo Pepe from execution when all the other young men picked up were beheaded on the grounds of Santo Tomas University.

    • Justin St.Denis

      Wow. I have heard similar stories from my wife’s family elders.

  • Very well reasoned argument.
    And I like the illustration BCF posted – very accurate.

  • APL

    Yep, in time of war – better safe than sorry. The deportation and detainment might be justified – certainly proper standard codes of treatment are required. But, yes the confiscation was morally wrong. Readers might be interested in looking up the “Niihau Incident”.

  • pdxnag

    That is the wrong question. (I guess that is what the article is all about.) Islam is an ideology and profession of loyalty to a sworn enemy, one waging war on free people for nearly 1,400 years. It is not the DNA that is at issue, but loyalty is. Whether we round up Japanese citizens is far different than rounding up all persons of Japanese descent.

    Would we round up Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an enemy Muslim? It makes no sense at all.

    Quibble with the conclusion. It is all about ideology. A Muslim-American who possesses citizenship papers is nevertheless not a citizen of America at all, for they are the enemy of individual liberty.

  • Frances

    Given that Japan openly expected all Japanese-Canadians to rally to the cause, and given where they lived and worked, internment was probably justified. Even before the war, there were rumours along the West Coast that some Japanese-Canadian fishing boats were actually taking soundings and mapping the under-water topography against the day of an invasion. However, the confiscation of their property and subsequent fire sale of same to the locally well-connected who proceeded to make a bundle was totally unjustified. I never heard that the rumours of spying and possible sabotage were substantiated. And, we need to remember. Japanese-Canadians had fought and died in WW I alongside other Canadians, so veterans of that war were interned and had their property confiscated. There is a monument in Stanley Park commemorating the Japanese-Canadians and the battles in which they fought..

    We tend to forget what was happening in China and Korea in the 30s. However, Vancouverites would have known, and there was serious enmity between the local Chinese and Japanese communities. Certainly there would have been concern as to the possibility of a Japanese invasion and uprising of the local “Japanese” even though the logistics of same meant success was not very likely. Internment would have been seen as a way of diffusing the situation between the two ethnic communities (don’t even hear of Koreans in the mix at that time), as well as removing a possible threat. And there were a fair few soldiers from Canada killed or imprisoned when Hong Kong fell. As an old family friend once said, “’s not that I hate the Japenese, it’s that I lost friends at Hong Kong”.

    I still maintain, though, the the confiscation and resale of property was crass opportunism by locals whose main objective during the war was their personal enrichment, leaving sacrifice to others.

    • Clausewitz

      “Crass opportunism”. Just remember who formed the Federal Government at the time and it all becomes much clearer.

      • Frances

        And provincially, it was a Liberal (albeit minority) government during the war. Only in 1945 did the Liberal – Conservative coalition government come into being.

    • V10_Rob

      The internment is one of those things that’s easy to dissect in retrospect, with all the facts. At the time, with a coastal assault and invasion within the coming months or years a very real concern, internment looked like a prudent security move. What were the other options? Deportation of citizens without any evidence of wrongdoing? Profiling and restricting their access to sensitive infrastructure (without the aid of modern surveillance technologies)?

      Agreed about the property seizure and sell-off, that was outright unjustified.

  • Maggat

    Given the time and state of war, NO. In retrospect 70 years later, YES