Ontario’s Kleptocracy just signed the province up for more expensive, unreliable electricity it doesn’t need

The costs may be high and the need questionable, but Ontarians signed up to buy a lot more renewable power last week when Ontario’s Independent Power System Operator (IESO) announced the results of the province’s latest procurement. The new deal brings “low prices” for new wind and solar generation, says Ontario Energy Minister Bob Chiarelli.

We are ruled by thieves.

  • simus1

    We are idiots ruled by thieves and robbed by rent seekers.

    • That sums up the Ontario demographic;)

      • Alain

        Taking into account the results of the last federal election, that applies to the whole country not to mention the one in Alberta.

  • CodexCoder

    According to the National Post article, we are exporting power we can’t use at a loss, and paying more than necessary for power we don’t need and is never available when we really need it (like the wind usually dies about sundown every night unless there is a storm coming, or so I have observed – rules out wind and solar being effective).

    Way to go, Bob (I haven’t seen grease I won’t accept) Chiarelli.

  • Waffle

    The system operator’s announcement relies on the fallacy of relative privation. In other words: “this unreliable power is not as costly as some other unreliable power you’ve been stuck with.” For instance, the operator’s press release proclaims, “For context, these prices are lower than the Feed-in Tariff (FIT) rates…”

    “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”

    “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean different things.”

    We’re so far down the rabbit hole, I don’t think we will ever find our way back.

    • I’ve said it a thousand times before, I’ll say it a thousand times again: Wind and solar are UNSUSTAINABLE without a battery storage system.

      I’ve built a wind system before — great for small projects. But completely insane for something on the “white elephant” scale because you could never build a battery storage system large enough. I will offer a $10,000 reward to any engineer in Canada that can prove to me how these technologies can be sustainable without a battery storage system. (don’t worry, I won’t be out $10,000 — there are never any takers because it’s impossible. And if I were a billionaire like Donald Trump I would up the reward to $1 billion with the same confidence that there will never be any takers).

      • Exile1981

        Ontario shut down last year their largest coal plant – 1 gigawatt or in normal terms 1000MW capacity that had 95% uptime. So it averaged 950 MW of power every hour of every day for a year.

        Wynne announced she is replacing it with a solar plant on the same site that will take up as much space as the coal plant but only genetate 455 MW…. with a 10% rate…. so an average of 45 MW every hour of every day.

        • …if the sun is shining (which can’t happen at night or when cloudy or rainy or snowy). It’s not a controllable predictable power source. A little more predictable with batteries, but not completely — still requires regular battery maintenance and a cut-off system to avoid over-charging. None of this technology is in place, and won’t be in the foreseeable future if we’re talking megawatts. It will continue to be a money pit driven by ideology rather than practical solutions.

          They’re doing it backwards — they should fully develop and test the technology first, then replace the old systems. Not the other way around. It’s energy suicide.

          • Exile1981


            I promised BCF i’d write an article on power plant terms and technology, since the Alberta, Manitoba and Ontario gov’ts are all messing up the grids.

            Its taking much longer than planned and the last couple days has seen 2 of the kids home sick plus life keeps interrupting my writting time.

  • canminuteman

    Later this year one of the Darlington units is going off line for a year to have a mid life overhaul. That takes almost 1000 mega watts off the grid.

    • Shebel

      Does that mean that we will Save money by not selling at a LOSS to the USA?

      • canminuteman

        No, because the nukes and hydro provide base load coverage, gas plants provide high demand coverage and wind doesn’t really provide anything. BUT, the wind gets first crack at the market and gets used whether it’s needed or not. You can’t quickly turn a reactor on and off, but you can spill water over Niagara Falls. If the wind is blowing and there is too much power on the grid the hydro (which is effectively free) goes off line to make way for super expensive wind power. What a way to run a business. It’s also interesting to note that our all time peak demand was about 27,000 Mega watts. that was about a decade ago. Now, given energy efficiency and de industrialization peak demand is typically 17,000 mega watts.

    • WalterBannon

      well those windmills will cover that then, I hope Ontario suffers from a massive brownout and the remainder of its manufacturing flees the province

      that is about the only way we will ever see wynne sent to prison for her many crimes in office

  • ontario john

    And more good news for Ontario taxpayers. Because we love giving and wasting money in Sunny Ways Ontario. The Wynne government announced today that it is giving whiny indians in Ontario, $13,000,000.00 to use on global warming issues. Oh, good, indians get 13 million dollars to put solar panels on liquor stores, and I have to pay ever increasing hydro bills.

    • Shebel

      The smoke manufacturing shacks have larger roofs and are aligned perfectly for solar panels.
      Natives are definitely, not stupid , when it comes to bleeding stupid White people.

      • simus1

        They front for the Libranos – among others.