Libertarian third party coalescing to oppose Trump

Around Bill Kristol. Here:

They see the real-estate magnate’s Republicanism as being all about self-aggrandizing bluster and fear-mongering, and they note that in years past he has expressed liberal views on key issues such as abortion.

As a result, some of them want to do something about it — like leave the Republican Party if he’s nominated for president.

National Review, the publication founded by the late conservative intellectual icon William F. Buckley Jr., tried to derail the Trump train last month by devoting an entire issue to attacking the businessman.

“Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones,” the editors wrote. “Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism who would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot in behalf of a populism as heedless and crude as the Donald himself.” More.

Reality check: Why do they think voters who wouldn’t coalesce around Cruz or Rubio will coalesce around them?

See also: Our American Friend on Super Tuesday

  • Good luck.

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    Not the Libertarians!

    I used to be a libertarian, 25-years ago, and these guys are serious about not being serious.
    It’s a nothing-burger.

    • David Murrell

      NbN, I agree. For example, libertarians are not aware that Western society faces an existential threat, called Islam. If they did, they would not care.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        That, yes, and once you step back and take a long hard look at Libertarianism, you also realize that it’s as unworkable as communism and would eventually lead to a Dickensonian England and an overrun by the least desirable elements of humanity that would be here to thieve what would be left of our social capital.
        I really don’t want to trade one potential tyranny of the government for a multipolar tyranny of even less responsive corporations.

        It’s just another form of Utopianism for pot smoking idiots that would lead to wide-scale misery and bloodshed.
        Although they do share some free market ideas with me, I really don’t like Libertarians at all and I think that accommodating them is dangerous.

        Please tell me how Somalis, sub-Saharan Africans and Islamic fundamentalist would act in a westren style democracy that has no ability to thwart them? We would all be dead or enslaved with an absolutely horrible quality of life on our way to enslavement and death.
        The Camp of the Saints is a warning, not an instruction manual.

        • Fran800

          How would Somalis, sub-Saharan Africans and Islamic fundamentalists act in a western style democracy that has no ability to thwart them? I think that’s what we are finding out.

          One of the ironies about Islamic states is that the government is often better than the people because the people are awful. Take Turkey for example. For decades they had a sort of democracy on the surface that really did have very Western-style elections. But the deep-state (which was mainly the military) kept the civilians in line and came “out of the barracks” if Islamists or Communists started gaining influence and power. The deep state has been deeply eroded now from demands by the EU for civilian control — and the result is that Turks (and the rest of us) get Erdogan. If I’m living in an Islamic country, I want a relatively benevolent dictatorship!

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          Libertarianism leads to Into The Badlands.
          The central premise is that everyone should be able to do whatever they want to do as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody else.
          It ignores human nature.

    • Clink9

      Nothing burger, on a Sunday Go To Meetin’ Bun.

    • V10_Rob

      I still consider myself one, a small L libertarian, if you will. I don’t think I was ever particularly frothing mad on the subject, even as a university student full of p*** and vinegar, and have little use for ideological purists of any stripe, even amongst my own.

      The state will always be an imperfect construct, but serves a purpose because enlightened self-interest of the individual can still be thwarted by ignorant self-interest of other individuals. I’m even generally in favor of some limited state socialism (welfare, healthcare, etc), for the same reason I pay insurance premiums: bad things beyond my control might happen to me. Nevertheless, the best government is the one that governs the least. How you define ‘least’, well, that’s the rub that sparks the theological infighting. I see libertarianism as a set of guidelines and general principles, not a definitive and comprehensive answer for everything.

      In the spirit of all this…

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        I too am a huge fan of limited government, but government does have its place, as does regulation, and laws controlling immigration and several other areas.
        I’m talking more of the hard-line doctrinal purists who essentially want anarchy with a non-interventionists foreign policy.

        • G

          Libertarianism is nothing more than a gaggle of spoiled brats who haven’t heard the word “No” in their formative years thinking that’s the way the world works in big people land. You hear these shits scream a lot about their rights but funny, they never mention that those rights have accompanying personal responsibilities. —-(convenient)

      • Alain

        Actually that is what being a Liberal traditionally meant, or what I think now is called classic Liberalism. Of course there is absolutely no relation with what parades as the Liberal Party today, federal or provincial.

  • andycanuck

    Libertarianism is driving the anti-Trump forces? Are they on crack?

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      Pot, they are on pot. Their drug of choice is marijuana.
      I’d say 70% of them bake like a clam daily.

      • Xavier

        Tru dat.

        • Clink9

          And Tru deau

  • Xavier

    They would siphon votes from Cruz and Rubio making Trump’s nomination even more inevitable. Morons.

  • simus1

    You can see it coming.
    Once the weather gets better in about April next year, they will all be out on the big city downtown street corners with their signs:

    …….Unemployed Former Political Insider.
    Will Write Lies About President Trump For Food.
    ……..Please. Please Hire Me. I’m Starving.

  • Millie_Woods

    I think the right word is ‘congealing’.

  • Norman_In_New_York

    If there are breakaways from a Trump nomination, he will then face what Truman faced in 1948, and if Trump has Truman’s spunk, he should overcome these obstacles.

  • Brett_McS

    They’d have better luck opening a Leftorium.