Donald Trump helps extremists by creating ‘clash of civilisations,’ says useless tool David Cameron

Donald Trump is helping extremists by creating the idea of a “clash of civilisations between Islam and the West,” David Cameron has said.

Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Mr Cameron, in an unusual intervention in domestic US politics, said the Republican presidential candidate was “making a fundamental mistake” of trying to blame all Muslims for the ideology and actions of a few.

“I think that’s wrong,” he told the youth-focused American news website, Mic.

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  • Martin B

    Yes, the Saracens and the Crusaders were all singing in perfect harmony before Trump came along.

    It’s been 117 years since Churchill wrote that classic passage in The River War – you all know it – and look how low the Land of Hope and Glory has sunk since then.

    • That’s the crux. Trump didn’t create the “clash of civilizations”, Trump’s only been on the political scene for, what, less than six months?!! Makes you wonder if these Politicians all have ADHD because of their attention span. Or if there’s been some sort of mass outbreak of Alzheimer’s among politicos — they can’t seem to remember anything beyond 24 hours ago. Tens of thousands of Muslim terrorist attacks around the world over the past 15 years before Donald Trump came on the scene.

  • Norman_In_New_York

    Trump isn’t blaming all Muslims, only certain aspects of Islam that need to be universally disavowed by the faithful but have yet to be.

    • Mickey Oberman

      All Muslims must and do believe in the Koran.
      So there is only one category of Muslim, which will persist until that obscene volume is no more.

    • Cat-astrophe

      Sorry, there are no moderate muslims.

    • Physics grad

      All aspects of Islam are evil and all muslims should be expelled from our lands.

      How long have you been a secret democrat Norman?

      • Norman_In_New_York

        I’ve been a registered Democrat all my adult life, but I have frequently crossed party lines in my voting and within the last 15 years, I have become a DINO.

  • roccolore

    Cameron helps extremists by letting them flood England.

  • BillyHW

    David Cameron is a liar who doesn’t even know which hole it’s supposed to go into.

  • John

    Cameron is a career politician and as such cares not a jot about British people.

    And what really is Davos…apart from a gab fest for wealthy thieves?

    • Cat-astrophe

      Davos is the best opportunity around to level the playing field.

  • luna

    The logic is that we aren’t really at war with Islam, but with a small group of so-called Muslims who misunderstands the religion or possibly have nothing to do with the religion.

    The problem is that logic only helps if the Muslim majority buys it, and internalizes it to the point that people are not becoming radicalized by Islam.

    In other words it may be slowing down the rate of radicalization (compared with acknowledgement of Islam’s message & history) but it doesn’t prevent radicalization.

    Trumps ideas of a direct assault on terrorist entities is refreshing, but it represents an immature view that we are going to end this war quickly by conventional means.

    Of all the candidates running for POTUS only Ben Carson has articulated that this is an ideological war with Islam.

    U.S. Military is fantastic, given the mission and resources they can accomplish anything. The question is what mission will the next POTUS give them? Defeat ISIS, or defeat the ideology?

    • Mickey Oberman

      With intelligence and determination and cooperation the free world, such as it now is, can now “Defeat ISIS, or defeat the ideology?”

      • luna

        I’m still optimistic, but with demographic changes as they are, we may have only a few more generations before it’s too late.

        • Mickey Oberman

          luna,
          I do not believe we have a few more generations.

          Muslims are breeding like locusts and will overwhelm the world by sheer numbers which they have already started with the millions of “refugees”.

          Islam owns over 6 million square miles of the middle east. That is 99.975%. It is largely vacant land.
          Some of the world’s richest countries live there but have not lifted a finger to help their fellow Muslims.
          It will take determined military intervention to change their decadent minds. Negotiations are completely useless with a people whose holy Koran instructs them to lie.

          • luna

            It will take more then conventional warfare.

          • Mickey Oberman

            I am sorry, luna, I don’t follow your reasoning in the last sentence.

          • luna

            Defeating ISIS is playing a game of whack-a-mole with Islam. Once ISIS is defeated who will govern Syria & Iraq? What about Iran? Boko Haram, Taliban, al-Qaeda?

            The point is the military planners should be given the larger mission upfront rather then start with a narrow mission of defeating ISIS, then start changing the mission as the situation evolves.

          • Mickey Oberman

            Respectfully, luna,
            What exactly is “the larger mission”?

          • luna

            Defeating the ideology that gives rise to so-called radical or militant Islam.

          • Mickey Oberman

            I am Canadian. I do not know Ben Carson.
            I do know what a tragedy Obama’s US has inflicted upon America, Israel and the rest of the world.
            I do not know if too much reliance should be vested in the USA after the past disastrous 2 terms and 8 years of surrenders, submissions, betrayals and lies and the gullibility of Americans to believe the present administration.

          • luna
          • Mickey Oberman

            luna,

            I am impressed.

          • luna
          • Mickey Oberman

            luna,

            And again.

          • luna

            This is CAIRs favorite clip:
            https://youtu.be/F4ts2SMTJhI

          • Mickey Oberman

            “The mission in my opinion should be defeating the ideology that gives rise to so-called radical or militant Islam”

            How does “radical or militant Islam” differ from any other Islam?
            All of Islam strictly believes in, adheres to and obeys the immutable words in that obscene, despicable book, the Koran.

          • luna

            Not all Muslims understand or are committed to their faith in the same way. Indeed there are Muslim leaders who oppose violence and believe in separation of religion from government. They are for the most part a persecuted minority, radicals in a true sense.

            I would define radical/militant Islam as a supremacist ideology which refuses to accept basic principles of human rights including equality, freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Such a definition allows us to reframe our opposition to specific objectionable practices without which Islam would cease to exist.

            In particular if Muslims & non-Muslims are treated equally under the law, and Muslims are not killed for apostasy, many Muslims would simply give up their faith.

          • Mickey Oberman

            “In particular IF Muslims & non-Muslims are treated equally under the law, and Muslims are not killed for apostasy,…”

            Such a small word that carries so much potential.

            Muslims have had more than plenty of opportunity to prove that they could co-exist in democratic societies. Their rate of failure is very close to 100%. They could have renounced Islam and been protected but whatever their feelings they chose to remain silent about the multitudes of horrors and atrocities committed by their fellow Muslims.
            Their silence is exactly the same and is interpreted as their consent.

            Abba Eban said “The Muslims (Arabs) never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”
            How very, very true.

          • luna

            Some have given up their Islamic religion, but even in the west where they are protected under the law they may be persecuted by their own family.

            We need leadership that will shed light on these and other crimes against humanity & “encourage” Islamic governments to embrace basic human rights, without falling victim to a barrage of anti-western distractions thrown from groups like OIC, UNHRC, MB, CAIR, MSA, etc.

            Rhetoric of course is not going to defeat Islam on its own, IMHO it should be a component of a broad campaign, which of course should include military dimensions.

            At least that’s what I’d like to see our leaders doing.

    • And we’re forgetting that recent Al Shabaab recruitment video (which the MSM didn’t publish but thankfully BCF got a copy). As a recruitment tool the focus of their wrath wasn’t Donald Trump, it was in fact Barack Obama — they were especially enraged because he killed Bin Ladin. That’s probably why the MSM didn’t publish it — reality turns the Left’s narrative upside down (and in some respects turned upside down the Right narrative as well). In other words the “clash of civilizations” was created by Obama if we take these particular Jihadists’ recruitment efforts into account.

      • luna

        Whoever the next POTUS is they’ll appear in a terrorist recruitment video.

        • Of course. But my point is the Left is always saying “this and that is what Muslims think”, and Obama is always saying “this and that is what the terrorists want”. When the fact is none of them have made the slightest effort to inform themselves about what they think or their motivations. They don’t think what we think they think. Instead of dumb speculation hopefully a President Trump will take the Jihadis stated intentions seriously and respond by “taking the bull by the horns”, instead of playing mind-reader.

          • luna

            Trump will take the militant jihadists seriously, the legal jihadists (same goal of sharia) perhaps a little less seriously. His rhetoric on “refugees” is nice, but if he makes to the general election he’ll refrain from such outbursts.

          • Mickey Oberman

            Let us hope he sticks to his original script.

          • Mickey Oberman

            I don’t care about his “outbursts”
            I do care and believe that he will do his very best to follow through with those “outbursts”. I wish him great success.

          • luna

            If he makes it to the general election you’ll see him back away from those outbursts.

        • Mickey Oberman

          Trump would never let a burka mess his hair.

  • olddog

    So your wife wears a Pink Burkha and enjoys the thought of mutilation..How GD (D)iverse of you (D)UMB-@ZZ..

  • canminuteman

    Cameron should be swinging from a lamp post. He might yet. There as been plenty of violence in domestic British politics over the centuries.

  • Cat-astrophe

    Please, let don’t hurt me I promise I won’t bother you….

  • politicallynaive

    The clash has come around way before Trump who is trying to stop….As if what is happening to the German populace is due to Trump…But this is what happens when you stand up to the establishment who has allowed the immigrant situation to get out of hand by calling you the problem…

  • Mickey Oberman

    Cameron is a confused, befuddled coward who does not know what to say or in which direction to turn.

  • Physics grad

    Cameron is a treasonous buffoon and the people of Britain would be wise to rise up against him and lynch him.

  • pdxnag

    I thought that the Koran Kommands Klash with non-Muslims and insufficiently pious Muslims.

  • mobuyus

    I don’t blame muslims. I blame islam.

    • Mickey Oberman

      What is the difference?

  • Tokenn

    Islamic civilization has been clashing with every civilization it has encountered for 1300+ years. The notion of peaceful, moderate Islam is a momentary aberration based on ignorance…and a smokescreen.

  • Mickey Oberman

    How many Muslims constitute ‘a few’, Mr. Cameron?