Russia and Egypt Deny Bomb Speculation

Russia and Egypt Thursday dismissed as “speculation” British suggestions that a bomb caused a Russian jetliner to crash in the Sinai Peninsula, while the U.K. government forged ahead with plans to bring home thousands of British tourists amid concerns over airport security in the Egyptian resort city of Sharm el-Sheikh.

Egypt’s civil aviation ministry said in a statement Thursday that the British theory of a bomb having been smuggled aboard the plane “is not based on facts,” and that all of the country’s airports apply international security standards.

“The investigation team does not have any evidence or data confirming this hypothesis,” Civil Aviation Minister Hossam Kamal said, according to the statement.


  • Ed

    “The investigation team does not have any evidence or data confirming this hypothesis,” Civil Aviation Minister Hossam Kamal said, according to the statement.”

    Well Hossam, like, what make plane go boom boom??? Are we talkin Jinn?

    • I find it curious that the plane, reportedly in good condition, could just fall to pieces like that. If it was not a bomb, then that plane really did suffer some kind of structural or engine failure.

      Some may be covering their anatomy.

      • Exile1981

        It was a bomb, neither country wants that truth to be public.

        • I am not saying yes or no to anything, only that this is peculiar.

          • Exile1981

            For the last 2-3 decades there has been a lot of politics in crash investigations.

            There was a rash of early crashes of the A32; there was a lot of evidence from the paris air show crashes pilot that it was a software glitch. The Brits, French and Germans (who own airbus) claimed all those crashes were pilot error. Until one happened in Russia and another in the US and it turns out those two were by software glitch. After that a buddy who worked for AC at the time in maintenance told me they were getting 50 or so software patches from airbus a day and had hied 4 extra staff just to install them. He used to joke the software must have been by microsoft but actually it was done by a pakistani or indian company (forget which).

            There is some evidence that the boeing crash off the eats coast of the US that was blamed on a bad repair by Boeing was actually a accidental missile by the US navy. Some people have claimed that Boeing got a military contract in exchange for not disputing the findings.

            There is even one I know of that the Canadian investigators down played certain evidence because it made the RCMP look bad.

            I studied this topic under one of the best investigators who back in the 60/70’s went around the world as he consulted on most major accidents. He used to say the evidence never lies but too often the inspector is told to for political reasons. He said that is why he retired and started teaching.

          • I’m so glad to see that public safety and not politics is a priority.

            (sarcasm function disabled)

          • Exile1981

            If you want more info we can discuss this offline since I have more examples just giving them is too likely to make knowing who I am too easy for any of our resident trolls.

          • I’m not trying to provoke anyone. I am just asking questions.

      • Xavier

        Engines are designed to specifically to not do what they’re trying to claim they did. More importantly, they were US built engines.

        Not terrorism but unsafe US equipment. Pay up. Tourism is saved and the US blamed. Everyone wins, even Obama.

        • Is it possible that there was a malfunction? Engines sometimes flare out.

          • Exile1981

            flare out yes, explode no. The damage to the engine I saw implies that the engine was subject to en explosion or it ingested a large object. Since engines are designed for bird strikes, and the damage doesn’t look like a bird strike… it looks like something metal or hard was ingested.

            If it wasn’t a bomb then the only other two options I can come up with for the engine damage is a piece of the plane came free and was ingested or a meteorite falling from space was sucked into the engine.

            Given the engine is mostly intact on it’s aft half and disintegrated on the front half; if the engine exploding was the cause of the crash the pieces thrown by the engine would have gone into the cabin ahead of the wing.

            The Russian’s have already said most of the people in the front half of the jet died of a massive concussion (like a shock wave) and the ones in the back died by shrapnel and impact by small bodies (metal bits). Those damage layout would be backwards for an engine explosion.

            Now the tail has an APU (aux power unit) and if it exploded it’s possible it could have severed the tail section, but unlikely.

          • If this was a bomb, then why don’t the Russians use this to their advantage? They don’t want to let a good crisis go to waste.

          • Exile1981

            Generally a terrorism event or hijacking has a major cooling effect on air travel with the effected airline specifically and the other airlines domesticly as well. All of the major airlines in russia have financial issues. A bomb has a good chance of sinking or crippling one or more airlines.

            while a terror attack would be a great way to justify getting into syria it will cool the publics ardour for it when they realize they are at risk oersonally.

            You made a good point. I just don’t know enough about the dynamics in russia to say if the negatives of the bomb are the only factors weighing on peoples minds.

          • The Russians need a legitimate reason for their involvement in the region. This is it.

            Though you did make good points.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            Mostly because they lack the ability to respond to it, and the Russians are like the Middle Easterners and Chinese when it comes to saving face and not looking weak.
            If they say it was a bomb, then they HAVE to do something, and I suspect that they cannot do that much more than they were already doing.
            They also have an extremely limited ability to project power.
            They are not the old Soviet Union, and they are certainly not America who can “push the button” on anyone, anywhere, as long as we possess the political will to do so, which really does not happen all that often.

          • Russians move with force. They went through the school in Beslan. This is not that different.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            That reminds me of a joke I heard from a Russian. Maybe it can illustrate my point.

            Q: What’s more dangerous than being taken hostage by Chechen terrorists?
            A: Being rescued by ‘Alpha’ Directorate.


          • Which hell is worse?

          • Maggat

            Nope. Not engine.

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  • Xavier

    A lot of backroom deals are being made right now. Egypt’s tourism industry, and a substantial portion of Russia’s, depends on “no bomb”.

    • Exile1981

      Airbus will sell out it’s soul to prevent another bad press event, the Russian’s need it to not be a bomb and the Egyptian’s can’t afford to loose tourism.

      We’ll very likely never know the truth.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        Airbus needs this to be a bomb, not structural failure.
        Pilot error just makes no sense in this case.

        • Exile1981

          exactly. I was commenting xavier’s point about blame it on an engine. yes airbus needs it to a bomb.

    • El Martyachi

      The thing is… about Russians.. it probably won’t affect their willingness to travel there a whole lot. I wouldn’t be surprised if their middle eastern tourism rates increased, or at least, is far more dependent on economics than geopolitics.

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  • tom_billesley

    Increased vigilance at Sharm el-Sheikh airport.

    Guards at Sharm el-Sheikh were still taking cash from tourists today to help them bypass security despite evidence an ISIS bomb was probably smuggled through the airport.
    One holidaymaker handed over 150 Jordanian Dinars (£13) after an official walked along asking tourists if they wanted to avoid the queues in security today.

    Baksheesh is a habit that’s become part of the culture.

  • marty_p

    The Egyptians who depend on foreign tourist dollar income are in panic mode – their tourist industry that is just starting to recover after Mo terrorists shot up an ancient temple a few years ago would crash and burn (no pun intended) if this turns out to be terrorism.