Harper to public service: ‘We’re not going to pay people who are not sick’ #elxn42

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says public servants in the national capital should not be worried if his party gets re-elected to govern in the Oct. 19 election.

However, he warned that reforms to sick leave and disability benefits will be designed to strengthen the system so it helps people who are “actually ill.”

  • David Murrell

    Paying sick and disability benefits, in the federal public service, only to those people actually ill? A scandal! One can be sure that investigative reporters at CBC News and the Globe and Mail are going to dig deep, and attack Harper on this. An outrage I say.

    • AmicusC

      they already do that that’s why there are so many banked sick days (note the part that says 15 million days banked)
      most people retire with massive amounts of banked days. they don’t get a windfall when they leave. sick leave isn’t paid out unless you are sick.

      • Alain

        Actually I know first hand that the rule is for those retiring to use up all their banked sick leave right up to the date of retirement. So they do get paid out through this. It isn’t supposed to happen, but it does.

        • AmicusC

          first no system is perfect and anything can be exploited that does not necessarily mean it needs a complete overhaul to a worse system that may or may not be as easy to scam.
          two I would like to see this rule. I have first hand knowledge to and have never seen it happen.

          • Alain

            What I witnessed was liquidating one’s sick leave by claiming most often “stress leave”. Their sick leave credits being used up as their retirement kicks in. If you have working experience in the federal civil service, then I question your ignorance of this practice.

          • AmicusC

            Perhaps not everyone is a giant leech shocker I know.

  • Clink9

    Cue Maux in 5…4…3…2..

  • ThomasB

    Worked 2 decades for the feds. There is no doubt some variation from department to department, but I saw a fair bit of abuse in that time – of sick leave, of time worked versus time reported, etc. And the trouble is, the generally poor office atmosphere adversely affects those who truly want to work hard and be fair: they see many of their colleagues scooting off for 90 minute, 2 hour “lunch” breaks, or leaving a half hour early every Friday, and they may end up shrugging their shoulders and saying, why do I bother?

    It’s a shame because there are some talented and hard-working individuals in the public service – but they tend to get “ground down” after a while by the poor work environment and work ethics of many of their colleagues, and become like them to some extent.

    • Alain

      Having worked as a manager there I can confirm what you say. The biggest problem was that it was next to impossible to get rid of the incompetent and slackers thanks to the union. Even trying to deal effectively with leave abusers was a nightmare and impossible if the manager was male and the leave abuser was female (most of them were), since she would claim sexual harassment.

      Most of my staff were honest and good workers who resented the fact that their work load was increased due to the poor or non performers. That kind of thing can kill the motivation of good employees.