The Lazy Left, Migrants and Jeremy Corbyn

There are large patches of decent, well-meaning, people on the left whose eagerness to help anyone who might be “oppressed” is matched only by their zeal in denouncing people who question if such help may be doing more harm than good.

At the moment, there are around 800,000 migrants either in Europe or on their way. The luvvies on the left see each one of these migrants as a potential Anne Frank fleeing the evils of ISIS, Assad and assorted other nasties. Every one of the migrants is granted instant refugee status in the good hearts of the lefties because these kind souls are too lazy to even try to make distinctions.

Making distinctions is what intellectually engaged people do.

  • Hard Little Machine

    Corbyn will at last reveal the entire suite of retarded insanity the left has only grumbled out for a hundred years. Of course there will be pogroms in Britain too and this will be yet once again the end of Jewish life in Britain for a long time.

  • Glenfilthie

    800,000 isn’t a big deal. The big deal is the 1.7 million in the next wave. And the 300 million in the one after that.
    These people are low IQ, low skill trash. What are they going to do in a high tech first world other than turn to crime?
    We don’t feed and coddle wild animals in the national parks and we shouldn’t be feeding and coddling feral animals like militant moslems and roma gypsies. It isn’t fair to our kids to leave them a good nation run to ruin by idiotic bleeding hearts and progressive slobs – half of whom are low IQ/low skill slugs themselves.

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  • Billy Bob Thornton

    h ya just what the world needs more war after 14+ years of lies?! We understand that Harper wanting the ISIS war is mostly for ideology rather than good policy. How can war fix what war created?! People have to understand Iraq caused a lot of the problems that we are facing today.

    Don’t forget that Al Qaeda was created by the US and them giving weapons when the Afghan war was on in the 80’s.

    ISIS started from the US and the Gulf States giving weapons to the FSA which became ISIS. The fact is the US only lives on fear.

    Harper campaigned against Canada in 2003 for the Iraq war, and the truth is Harper has only wanted war with this new Conservative party. Former Progressive Conservatives like myself understand that Canada has been great with Pearsonian foreign policy and building up alliances and having facts instead of wanting to have populism which this Conservative party is all about.

    Canada cannot play a huge role with just 6 aircrafts.

    I became a PC mainly due to prominent nationalists within the former Tory party, during the leadership campaign of 2003. It mainly had to do with David Orchard, a prominent and true nationalist that was trying to create and galvanize a genuine movement across Canada.

    It is a shame that people on here only feel war is the only thing that can stop this ISIS group which I feel is a backdoor into more war.

    The reason why NATO nations and, in particular, Western nations cannot be trusted on the ISIS question is because there have been stories showing the US and in fact even Canada do not wish for Putin’s Russia to be involved in Syria.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      Do you really think Canada’s commitment to fighting over there is hard core?
      It’s a gesture and that’s all.
      It keeps us ahead of the NATO curve.

      • Billy Bob Thornton

        Well I am anti-NATO, just like I am anti-UN, because the UN tends to be an institution for globalization and globalism, and it veers too close to the United States. As a nationalist, I want more defending of our key resources, real wealth creators like Gazprom for Canada, creating our money using the Bank of Canada, and finally, an independent foreign policy and economic policy for Canada. These are the best ways to allow the people to decide. Of course, we need a complete independent media that will just report the facts and never stray to one side or the other. Canada does not have that now because there is conservative media and liberal media and quite frankly media should never just bring on mainstream ideologies, but all ideologies. A lot of what is said by our politicians are just used for window-dressing, and they have no real plans other than being self-serving. ISIS, like I said in my comment above, is a US creation, due to the Iraq invasion and funding of the FSA. Don’t forget that in 2013 there was a push for war with Assad’s Syria. Right after the vote in the British House of Commons, mysteriously this ISIS group appeared. It was, I feel, a backdoor to get back into Syria and Iraq.

        • mobuyus

          Oh and you and yours will control this “independent media” fuck off.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Well it has to be written by law in parliament that no media can ever be favourable to one ideology to give an advantage. That is how it should be! All parties should have a say on such important legislation.

          • mobuyus

            Not all parties or people are equals nor should they ever be treated as equal. Get over it commie.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I am a member only of the Progressive Canadian party, the United Party and the Canadian Action party. I am only interested in nationalism not attempts to bring in more taxes or less taxes. I want current taxation and attempts to build a system that works everyone around that. The debates have to start there. Frankly, global warming/climate change is a way for globalism just as much as interventionist wars, because they involve all nations participating and wasting more money. We need national sovereignty and independence in how nations operate. That is the movement I hope will grow in Canada. I do not mind under what medium or under what party. I just hope a nationalist movement will grow! That is my intention.

            I am for equality since there is a democratic deficit. Communism means banning private property and massive unionization and the end of money and is a stateless model. I support state capitalism and the mixed economy, which are miles away from communism.

          • mobuyus

            You say you want a system”that works every one around” I am afraid I do not like your system or Freudian slip of the keyboard.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I was pretty clear. It isn’t my fault that you are an angry and bitter person.

          • mobuyus

            Because I won’t surrender to your totalitarian dream you accuse me of being bitter, sounds to me like some one has his pink panties in a tear soaked bind.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            The only autocratic and controlling regime we have had in Canada in the worst form is Harper’s party and his PMO structure. Democracy works best with independence. The whole idea of big government versus small government is just marketing and game-playing when there has never been such thing as a small government because it has usually led to more corporatism. Nationalism on the other hand is anti-corporate, pro-democracy, true freedom, national independence and pro national sovereignty. It also works towards small businesses having real power, regulations and real decision-making. Totalitarianism can only really occur in a police state construct and with authoritarian parties that are for law and order policies and such parties are normally for interventionist foreign policies. This whole talk about totalitarianism is based on the right wing view of what they believe totalitarianism is. Of course, totalitarianism supporters usually support a one party state, when any party that takes place in the democratic process is a democratic political party. This mentality about collectivists supporting totalitarianism is also nonsense since any party would be defined as partially collectivist because all economies are mixed or close to it. That has already been defined through economics. What I seek through the Canadian Action party is moving slightly more to the protectionist side because we, since the Thatcher/Reagan era, have moved too far from state capitalism, which is the best way to have full employment. Also, equalizing media is not totalitarian. I just don’t believe there are two sides to every story. There are either facts or opinion. Facts must rule the day. If one is supposed to work by opinion, there are many ideologies on the spectrum other than conservatism and liberalism. What about Christian democracy, libertarianism, fascism, communism, socialism, anarchism, nationalism. Don’t forget about the variants for each. That would be tens of ideologies just for covering the news in each of those ways. I mean, if you want to cover all ideologies. The fact is the news should be covered in independent ways and to inform the people. I hardly call that authoritarian or totalitarian. I also feel there should be more networks like PBS, TVO and CPAC.

          • mobuyus

            Have you ever considered having a girl-friend to occupy your free time, I don’t really think politics is your bag man. You’re young and believe Me you’d have a lot less to be bitter about.

          • Justin St.Denis

            You are the very soul of patience!

          • Glenfilthie

            Amen.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      “Don’t forget that Al Qaeda was created by the US and them giving weapons when the Afghan war was on in the 80’s.”

      Actually al Qaeda is a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot and that group predates the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan by many years.
      Al Qaeda didn’t even exist at the time we were giving any aid to some (but not all) of the Afghan rebels.

      The group that received almost all of our aid from 1981-1988 in Afghanistan became the Northern Alliance, a group that was fighting against both al Qaeda and the Taliban (who are mostly a creation of the Pakistani ISI).
      So, in conclusion Billy Bob, go fuck yourself and take your lying, false and revisionist history with you.

      • Jay Currie

        Yikes! There you go again spoiling the narrative with facts. Next you’ll be telling us that Bush won the war in Iraq and Obama snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

      • Billy Bob Thornton

        Oh ya how would you know because you are giving assumptions based on history, when there are sites which do state the US funded the groups there, and the Taliban supported Al Qaeda, which is what the Mujahadeen fighters were. The Saudis also funded those groups too. Bin Laden was a Saudi and a US agent.

        I am stating real history because the US plants seeds for future conflicts if they cannot get the outcomes they want.

        Everything goes back to where does the money came from because a lot of what goes on is a result of war. Northern Alliance just rose from nothing. The fact is Al Qaeda and the Taliban were supported by the US and the West.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          I know because I read books written by reputable authors that were THERE at the time of the event that they are writing about.

          Your claim that the U.S. (CIA) invented al Qaeda is patently false because the CIA themselves had not even heard of al Qaeda until after 1992 well over a year AFTER it formed. I agree that doesn’t make the CIA look good because they are supposed to be keeping track of groups like that.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I keep bringing up the funding aspect because if you cut off the money supply and find out the root causes then you will truly know how groups come into existence. The fact is the Taliban remained in power for 13 years from 1988 to 2001 and the West allowed it. As a nationalist, this is key to stopping the money and finding out root causes and to avoid war in the first place. I believe in national sovereignty and a non-interventionist foreign policy. The CIA will say what they have to but frankly giving names to entities is just a way to cover one’s tracks. The average person deserves to know where money goes and to give a real conversation about issues because fear is all we are sold.

  • Billy Bob Thornton

    Now is the best time to have a real debate to end interventionism and pre-emptive war once and for all and the migrant crisis is the best excuse. Corbyn is anti-austerity and anti-war and anti-Trident. It is time to have those discussions to bring nations and peoples together to end war once and for all. The same that call for tighter economies also call for more military spending. Canadians and in fact Western peoples need to see the results of interventionist foreign policy since 9/11. That will make people think twice before ever going to war.

    • Minicapt

      If you attempt to participate, then it cannot be a debate. It would be more productive to broadcast the attempted artistic manifestations of Kanny West.

      Cheers

      • Billy Bob Thornton

        I brought up some real and factual points and you just brush them aside because the fact is the wars have caused the problems. They have also wasted tons of money in the process. The West needs to focus, I feel, on domestic policies and people are losing faith in the political class. That is also due to the rise of UKIP and now left-Labour. Anti-austerity is going to grow because of the massive debt and the fact that international debt has grown to 56 trillion in just 7 years from 28 trillion.

      • mobuyus

        Could Billy Bob Thornton be, Kanny West?

        • Justin St.Denis

          Anything is possible on the magical interwebs….

    • Xavier

      End war once and for all? I think that’s been tried before. “But this time it will be different”, right?

      There’s only 2 things that you can be absolutely certain humans will do: fighting and fucking.

      • Billy Bob Thornton

        One thing is certain that is either the political class changes or the people will do what they have to in order to fix the system by themselves.

        • Billy Bob Thornton

          I am a nationalist and part of the Canadian Action party. I am against the left as it is now. The same with the right.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            So, you are an anarchist then?

          • mobuyus

            They are always the first to die when the shit hits the fan.

          • Justin St.Denis

            Darwin!

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Anarchism means being without government entirely and having a voluntary state. No, I want nationalism because it is the best way to challenge globalized capitalism.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

          • mobuyus

            Nationalist and nationalism are nazism. My Father killed an awful lot of Nazis with his artillery and his personal weapons even his bare hands(He gave me a cigarette case he took from a nazi in hand to hand combat) I didn’t know there many of those clowns still clanging around. Man you belong to some weird clubs. I’ve got a club I would like you to join..

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism – It is based on National Bolshevism but it does not have a political position, and from what I have noticed is nationalism in the sense of national socialism is far-right nationalism since it favours ultra-nationalism and it takes several ideas from the far-left and far-right. Nice try. Nationalism, in the sense that I speak of is the Canadian Action party. That party is a civic nationalist party. Parties such as that are left wing nationalist and centrist nationalist, much like the Scottish Nationalists, without the sovereignty factions. the fact is not all nationalists are Nazis. That is just lack of education.

            There are variants to everything. Everything isn’t black and white. Also, labeling things such as that are just ways to end debate.

            Here is the link to the variants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_nationalism

            This just proves you don’t have a mind of your own!

          • mobuyus

            Gee you took one of them thar new fangledy political science courses some where, eh young feller.

  • Britain’s Ahmadinejad. LOL! Same dinner jacket too

  • Shebel

    I am sick and tired of people that tell me that I should give damn about people – that hate me , hate my Culture and Hate my Religion.
    I really could care Less about the Mid East. Let them all kill each other.
    If Israel was Not there — where the Hell would we be now?

    For me– Arm Israel to the teeth . Period .
    To Hell with the rest. Let them establish their Caliphate.

    Then we can have a Real war.

    • Justin St.Denis

      That about sums up my sentiments as well!