Texas police shoot dead man holding his hands in the air

Gilbert Flores, from his name and pictures latino.

Here’s the local Sheriff’s Office making a frankly despicable and idiotic attempt to scapegoat the local news station for reporting the news.

“Today, members of our local media chose to broadcast online unedited video of a man’s death. (In fact they didn’t broadcast the shooting – ed.) KSAT 12 paid a neighbor who filmed the tragedy $100 for the exclusive rights to the video. (He really could have held out for a bit more than that – ed.) As a result, people from outside our community (100% of the messages came from outside your “community”? – ed.) have bombarded us with inappropriate comments, (the nerve! – ed.) and today, physical threats toward our deputies. These deputies have not been charged with a crime (This could be part of what has people upset, not that there’s been time anyway – ed.) and a family lost their loved one. (Because your cops executed him – ed.) This is unethical and sad. Call KSAT (But presumably only if you live in the immediate “community” – ed.) and let them know what you think – (210) 351-1277. (But don’t ever call the cops and let them know what you think. That’s harassment – ed.) If you agree, let the local media know this sort of sensational (sic, presumably) behavior doesn’t fly in Bexar County. (You’re really not in a position to be preening yourselves on the moral high ground here – ed.)”

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  • Doo Da Daze
    • I don’t see what difference that makes. He had his hands in the air and he wasn’t holding a weapon.

      • Doo Da Daze

        There is supposed to be another video out there that is a clearer This is from the dispatch.Not so sure he was unarmed..http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Recording-deputy-shooting-San-Antonio-video-6478986.php

        • tom_billesley

          ” ….altercation between Flores and the deputies, identified as Robert Sanchez and Greg Vasquez …”
          Yep, it sure sounds like a clear case of racism.

          • Maybe Sanchez and Vasquez were white hispanics….?

          • Doo Da Daze

            Like Zimmerman ?

          • tom_billesley

            Cops will have to carry a skin colour chart.

          • Doo Da Daze
          • LOL, exactly.

          • David Murrell

            They are considered white if they shoot armed black criminals, but they are considered black if they are shot by white police officers, while involved in a violent crime.

        • Petrilla

          Had a knife, can’t see behind pole in one video. he was warned.

      • Gary

        True, why wait for the facts and evidence to come out .
        With you in charge we wouldn’t needs any Courts .

        • Hey, I’m not the one carrying out summary executions.

          • Xavier

            You’re jumping to conclusions. 2 police officers simultaneously firing their weapons indicates they believed a threat existed. I’m not saying they were right, but to call that “summary executions” is irresponsible and incendiary.

          • Why? You think some BCF reader is going to go murder a cop because I typed the words “summary executions”?

            I was more or less accused by Gary of wanting people convicted and punished without reference to the legal system (which I don’t, by the way). Given the nature of this case, I find that accusation a little ironic.

            Sometimes the police aren’t the good guys. Sometimes it is possible to look at a piece of evidence and form a strong personal opinion even without everything having been run past a judge and jury. In fact, if you think about it, the vast preponderance of human opinion-formation occurs without benefit of formal legal imprimatur.

            (Incidentally, I think O. J. is guilty of murder. But he was totally acquitted!!!! Isn’t that irresponsible of me?)

          • Xavier

            Hysterical female.

            And you don’t need to lecture me about bad cops – I have scars and nerve damage to remind me.

          • Name-calling and boasting are not arguments. And you’re the one getting all emotional.

          • El Martyachi

            … yet.

          • You can’t prove a thing.

          • El Martyachi

            btw.. ummm….

            I believe it was William Shakespeare who once wrote, “That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” What a nice sentiment from a man who is old and white and dead and whose name is Bill. This is all to say, a man who doesn’t know shit.

      • mauser 98

        Barry has made all police jumpy

        Its Open Season On Killing Whites and Police
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brX0XcmtVUY

      • jayme

        There is some question now if that’s the case.

      • Xavier

        He had at least one hand in the air, the other was behind a telephone pole.

        • lolwut?

          You can tell by the angle of his shoulder that other arm was up as well, whether he had a weapon in that hand I don’t
          know but it’s pretty clear both arms were up.

      • African

        To me, this is a summary execution and people of all colors should come together and fight back against this kind of police brutality which is not really that different from ISIS brutality.

        • ISIS, huh?

          The dead man was hispanic/latino. So were the two cops who shot him. How are you making this about race?

          • Mal

            With that handle, how would he not, Mamba?

        • Petrilla

          Well a great big bull puckey to you if that’s how you decide everything, does sound like YOU are a bit like ISIS . There are other FACTS out there, could you wait until you hear them?

        • Petrilla

          I simply cannot let your stupidity stand. Prove what you have said or stand down. Do you have any idea what is has done this week besides teaching children to behead toy bears, set fire to them and then teach the 8 year old to shoot their enemies in the head? Destroy ancient cities like Pamyra and behead their 81 year old head of antiquities and spring his body up on the remaining columns? The have a new torture this week, hang their enmeis upside down by chains and throw gas on them and burn them alive. African…is this what you seriously saying equates to the outright murder of an American cop getting gas or the death of a man with a knife attacking cops? If it is, I might wonder exactly who YOU ARE. I imagine many of us are wondering.

      • Petrilla

        Not so quick Black Mamba, you may live to rue those words.

        • I may or may not live to rue just about anything, Petrilla, but I stand by the evidence of my eyes and my judgment.

  • Gary

    If the dead guy is White we won’t see Obama’s Black rioting mobs torch a City and attack Whites .

  • Doo Da Daze

    “Second video is said to show Flores with a knife in his hand at the time he was shot.

    http://www.click2houston.com/news/urgent-san-antonio-second-video-knife/35060418

    A second video showing the Bexar County police encounter with Gilbert Flores in Texas shows that Flores had a knife is his hand at the time he was shot, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN on Wednesday. This video is in the hands of police and the Bexar County District Attorney’s Office, and it has not been made public.

    Could be misreporting as has happened in the past but CNN generally misreports in favor of the perpetrator.” Via Conservative Treehouse. .

    • David Murrell

      CNN misreports all of the time, and they do this always in favor of Islamist terrorism in particular and organized crime in general.

  • The Butterfly
    • Petrilla

      Right on,

  • tom_billesley

    I parsed the headline wrongly at first and thought they had a zombie incident.

    • Heh.

      But I did take the “unarmed” out of the title. It seems he may have had a knife on him. He’d cut someone earlier, which is why the cops were called. In his shorts? In the raised hand that isn’t visible? (Not that he could have done any damage with it from that angle.)

      • lolwut?

        “Not that he could have done any damage with it from that angle”

        Don’t be so sure about that, it doesn’t take much to open someone up
        with even a keychain knife, I have a 6 inch scar across my inner arm
        that opened a 2 inch wide gash that was a millimeter from severing a major vein.. The knife blade was 2 centimeters long.

        A fast lunge and swing is all it takes to cause the target to fall backwords and get taken out while they try to regain their footing.

        I got my scar from someone standing a good 13 feet away and lunged
        suddenly, I tripped up moving backwards and they got me.

  • FactsWillOut

    “They also used, tried to use…non-lethal weapons…” LOL.

    • Petrilla

      Tasers

  • I support law enforcement. But – bad cops need to go. And cameras recording video don’t take sides.

    • lolwut?

      Edited video does and video not showing the full scene can also create a false narrative.

      This video does show both arms were up, the angle of his shoulder of the hidden arm proves that, whether he has a weapon, well that’s not totally clear.

      However, they were responding to a call about him using a knife on someone
      so it’s likely the case that he was indeed armed.

  • Mal

    Yes there are crappy cops, as well as good ones. Good cops/bad cops notwithstanding, a potentially lethal arsehole with his hands in the air is still a potentially lethal arsehole. The fact that he was an arsehole seems irrefutable, given the apparent particulars (injured mother; 20 minutes of refusal to surrender). I reckon I’ll wait until I learn a bit more about it before I condemn the coppers in this situation.
    If the cops were murderously out of line, they must face pay for it. And if Flores did refuse to surrender after injuring the mother with a knife, he may have have improved this world a little by leaving it.

    • African

      Those trigger happy and inhumane robotic cops executed a man who put his hands up and was not posing any threat to them and in my books, these cops have to die. It is an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. There will be no justice for the death of this man until such heartless and barbaric ISIS-like cops are severely punished or capitally punished.

      • Petrilla

        Wait for the facts……unless you just want to continue your hatred toward white people, white cops or maybe anything white. So these cops have to die? Remember the silly college studentl who said the executed cop at a gas station deserved to die by being shot 15 times in the head by a guy who snuck up on him after the Black Panthers said they should? That little fat white girl has been arrested since she was already on a warrant for assault. Be careful what you wish for, eh?

        • Mal

          Not a chance in hell, Petrilla. Even if “African” is presented with the facts they will pass by him like the idle wind which he respects not, to paraphrase a celebrated non-black writer.

      • Mal

        Li’l bit o’ foam on your lip there, “African”.

  • Doo Da Daze
    • Petrilla

      It is and the sadder Americans are for it.

  • simus1

    Sheriff’s don’t usually have much to say most of the time when a given routine arrest situation turns to crap. The fact he went ballistic was a good indication he had an ace in the hole to play against the MSM bullshitters.

  • Petrilla

    He had a knife, he was warned, several times. 21 foot rule.

  • Petrilla

    Would you want to be a cop in America right now? I just read two quick articles, one a white female cop attacked by a black male and thrown down a gorge in PA, how would you have liked to take that call? Having heard an interview with a Baltimore cop knowing his life was on the line every second, I said to my friends, wouldn’t you just take your pension and go? Why would you care about anyone in this anarchic cauldron of hate? My friends and I all agreed we would get the hell out but this one lone Baltimore cop said It’s my job. Good versus evil, every day, it is our job. Brave man, I hope he does not stand alone. God Speed to all cops, firefighters, EMS who see the worst of us everyday.