Two suicides linked to Ashley Madison leak – including a Texas police chief

There are a lot of victims here.

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  • moraywatson

    Victims? If you were married, and you registered at Ashley Madison without your spouse’s blessing, you are not a victim.

    • No, but the families are.

      • WalterBannon

        The families are the victims of their crooked spouses, not victims of this hacking, so your argument is fallacious.

        let me be tough with you and give you this feedback: either you have too much empathy or you have a vested interest, which is the impression you want us to have?

        • Xavier

          You’re gonna harsh his mellow! 😉

          • WalterBannon

            probably, but my back is killing me today…

          • lolwut?

            Call “Happy ending masseuse”

        • I never said the families were victims of the hackers.

    • Yusuf_Al_Kafir

      I have to chuckle every time someone in the media says ‘breach of trust’ when reporting on the Ashley Madison hack.

      • Clausewitz

        Yeah the irony is lost on some of our betters in the MSM.

      • Ha!

    • Justin St.Denis

      Things are not so simple. I’m sure you find it easy to judge others, perched as you are on a little twig of sanctimony. There are any number of reasons other than “cheating” for using the Madison service. Jump off your little twig and give it some thought!

      • Kaye

        “What to do?” Get a divorce: get a divorce and then go have your sexual relationship. If marriage is to mean anything, than surely it means a commitment to sexual fidelity. If the couple had agreed prior or during the “marriage” to allow one or both members to have sexual encounters with someone other than their spouse, then fine. But in my opinion whatever relationship they were left with in this case wouldn’t be a marriage.

        • Clausewitz

          People no longer understand the thought behind being married in a church and standing before God and invoking a vow. The steady progression of Liberal values has allowed us to be so inwardly focused, so selfish, that honor seems to be a lost concept for many. If this makes me sanctimonious, so be it. I’ll continue to have high expectations for people because I think they’re capable of it until they prove me wrong.

          • moraywatson

            ….or invoking a vow before a justice of the peace…

          • Clausewitz

            Same thing. When I make a pledge, I follow through, no matter at a church or in everyday life. I still live by the code that your pledge and a handshake are as binding as a contract, but then I’m old and I wish I had been born in an earlier era.

        • moraywatson

          Exactly. This is about “cheating” versus “consent”.

      • moraywatson

        There is no good reason for a married person to register at Ashley Madison without their spouses consent. Unless you have one to share, asshat.

        • Justin St.Denis

          You risk choking on your sanctimony one day, Skippy.

          • moraywatson

            You see you don’t have an example. Do you?

          • Justin St.Denis

            Actually, I have several, but they are too specific to detail in a public forum. I possess a high level of both empathy and discretion.

          • moraywatson

            ie. you have none.

          • moraywatson

            Waiting, waiting …. thought so.

            You should worry less about “twigs of sanctimony” and more about that “grove of illiteracy and ignorance” that you are nesting in.

          • Justin St.Denis

            “Grove of illiteracy and ignorance”?

            ROFLMAO

            Now that is genuinely hysterical. You and your ilk are as fleeting and ephemeral as your own demonstrated ability to think and express yourself rationally. You might consider working on that.

          • moraywatson

            ….and still waiting….

  • Xavier

    Tough shit. If you think your behavior was so deplorable that you deserve to die, you’re probably right.

    Like the Snowden fiasco, there aren’t clearly defined heroes and villains here. Everyone is guilty – the website, the cheaters, and the hackers.

    To hell with them all.

    • I refer to the cheaters families as victims.

      • Xavier

        Hmmm. It’s a conundrum. They actually were victims before the hack but didn’t know it. Now they’ve lost a loved one, by their own hand and because of their own actions. I do fee sympathy for the families but they aren’t victims of AM or the hackers – their spouse/parent/whatever is the one to blame for everything.

        • I know what you mean.

          • Kathy Prendergast

            A couple of points to remember: A, hackers are malicious antisocial freaks who do what they do not for any higher purpose than that of causing harm. And B, the right to privacy is not a right reserved only for morally perfect people. I don’t have much sympathy for adulterers, but for all those who get found out or confess, there are no doubt countless more married people who take the secret of an extramarital affair (or the ignorance of one) to their graves. Accepting this fact means accepting that humanity is flawed and not perfectible, always a hard thing for a certain type of person. I am reminded of the blindly idealistic protagonist of Ibsen’s play “The Wild Duck” whose revelation of a mother’s secret premarital affair to her husband leads to her child’s suicide. I am one of the people who would never “tell” if I found possible evidence of an adulterous affair, even if it involved a family member or close friend. The potential damage to a family is not worth having the moral high ground. And in the end, it’s really not my business.

          • Kathy Prendergast

            A couple of points to remember: A, hackers are malicious antisocial freaks who do what they do not for any higher purpose than that of causing harm. And B, the right to privacy is not a right reserved only for morally perfect people. Adultery is immoral, but it’s not a crime in this part of the world. I don’t have much sympathy for any adulterers, but for all those who get found out or confess, there are no doubt countless more married people who take the secret of an extramarital affair (or the ignorance of one) to their graves. Accepting this fact means accepting that humanity is flawed and not perfectible, always a hard thing for a certain type of person. I am reminded of the blindly idealistic “truth above all” protagonist of Ibsen’s play “The Wild Duck”, whose revelation of a mother’s secret premarital affair to her husband leads to her child’s suicide. I do not think I would ever “tell” if I found possible evidence of an adulterous affair, even if it involved a family member or close friend. The potential damage to a family is just not worth the pleasure of having the moral high ground.

  • Hard Little Machine

    Adultery isn’t a crime it’s barely an irritation at this point.

    • Not for the families of the cheaters necessarily.

      • Hard Little Machine

        Cheating is rampant with or without websites. Anyone so shocked that they will be exposed so as to kill themselves has a screw loose.

        • Justin St.Denis

          There’s that, of course.

      • WalterBannon

        moved

  • mauser 98

    Christina…we can weather this storm

    • andycanuck

      But she’s gone blonde for the (IIRC) Miss Clairol commercials!

      • MRHapla

        cue the Darth Vader “Nooooo” in 3,,2,,,1,,,

  • WalterBannon

    so what, am I supposed to feel bad about these people making more bad decisions?

    they got caught cheating

    if it was not the website, something else would have been their undoing

    Why are the Toronto Police putting so much effort into a crime that probably did not even happen in their jurisdiction, and which should be a matter for national police?

    How about instead the head across the street to Queens Park and put the same effort into arresting Wynne for her criminal involvement in the deletion of email evidence, and the use of outside cronies to obstruct justice in this matter?

    • Exile1981

      The TP are investigating it because a bunch of them are likely members.

  • Clausewitz

    Still have no sympathy for these sleaze balls. It’s not so much the sex that destroys the marriage as the complete and utter destruction of trust within the marriage. How can you trust someone who boldly lives a lie on a daily basis who only repents because they are caught in the headlights.

    • Exile1981

      Having been married once a long time ago to a serial cheater and having tried to work past it each time she cheated… you can’t. It slowly eats you up wondering when they’ll cheat again.

      So glad I finally smartened up (almost 20 years ago) and eventually found someone I cold trust and have a family with.

  • dance…dancetotheradio

    I got a million dollars that says Howie Mandel is not on the Ashley Madison list.
    Unless, it was thaat Howie Mandel.
    Not the famous germophobe.

  • G

    “A family lawyer in America described it as ‘Christmas in September’ for the industry ”

    But lawyers aren’t complete shitstains – oh no.

  • Samuel

    Ashley Madison puts $500,000 bounty on hackers heads – via cnet.com: http://www.cnet.com/news/ashley-madison-puts-bounty-on-hackers-heads/

  • Gary

    Lets wait to see if Jack Layton’s name pops up , after all, he had to get a stranger to service him at the Rub-n-tug since Olivia wouldn’t do it at home.

    • Clausewitz

      Olivia Chow rubbing and tugging. Now there’s an image I’ll have to drink out of my mind. I say six beers minimum.

  • barryjr

    Boo Hoo (sarcasm off)