What Happens When Science Allows Us to Abort A Baby If It Has the ‘Gay Gene’?

One gets the sense these days that the once far away, anti-Utopian worlds of George Orwell, Margaret Atwood, Ray Bradbury and Aldous Huxley are actually here. Let me add some evidence to this pessimism concerning an issue I have been warning about for over a decade.

Since 1973, Americans have been desensitized about the emotional and physical consequences of abortion. The Roe v. Wade decision supposedly swapped “back alley abortions” of the past for a more “civilized” abortion industry — anchored by Planned Parenthood — that Americans were told was rare, safe and clean.

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  • Clink9

    I just had this little talk recently with a lefty relative. She thought no way would people abort a gay baby if science could detect.

    Worlds will collide.

    • BillyHW

      It’s a woman’s right to choose.

      • DGCJ

        Yep, I guess that means that a lesbian mother could abort a heterosexual male fetus? Works for me.

    • Big time.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      The question is actually why wouldn’t you.
      In a way they already are.
      With the mainstreaming of gay culture more and more babies aren’t being born because gay men don’t have to hide themselves in heterosexual monogamy to get ahead in the world.
      This means a diminishment in the propagation of the gay gene.

      • DD_Austin

        And support for gay marriage

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          If gay marriage is legal is it even real?

          • DD_Austin

            Who cares…. as long as they’re leaving our women alone
            whatever shit they want to call themselves is okay with me
            Think of it as social engineering gone right

            Short term cost for long term payoff

            If we’d had gay marriage 50 years ago

            we wouldn’t have shiny pony today

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I know of at least three families whose ‘dads’ decided when their kids were teenagers that they couldn’t live a lie anymore.
            And a couple of lesbernans, too.

          • DGCJ

            Yep, my marriage is quite real. I assure you. And, my Catholic university, where I teach, provides spousal benefits for all same sex married couples. I guess they acknowledge it’s quite real?

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            The question mark at the end of your comment.
            Is that uptalkiing??

          • He’s had it with us. We’re such a bunch of big bullies he just can’t take it. Oh well. I wouldn’t worry about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DsthMK93Vs

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I don’t need a cigarette.
            But, there isn’t something out there that could take it’s place.
            Dang.
            Bugger.
            Fuck.

          • I miss him. There was something about his borderline-psychotic rage that was strangely endearing. Have a look at his comment history. He’s quite the hothead. A tad repetitive.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            Spock isn’t gay and that bugs me.

          • So he and Kirk weren’t… you know…?

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            The new Star Trek movies are up my nose.
            Spock isn’t gay but they let an argumentative gay man play him.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            You’re implying that Kirk fucking the green bitch means he’s totally indiscriminate in his choice of sexual partners.

            Tell you what.
            I’d shag Ewan McGregor in 1995 and definitely Mickey Rourke in 1982.

          • DGCJ

            Borderline?
            That’s funny. I’ll have to tell that to my husband, who is a therapist. He’ll laugh.
            That’s funny. I’ll have to tell that to my husband, who is a therapist. He’ll laugh.

          • Are you sure you wouldn’t rather tell it to your husband, who is a therapist? Maybe he’ll laugh.

            I’m not “attacking” your job. I’m just wondering why you keep bringing it up. I’m mildly curious about you. Although that curiosity is waning swiftly. You just seem like an incredibly angry guy. Maybe you should go play elsewhere.

          • DGCJ

            I’m angry when people say stupid things, such as identical twins share the same genes, and the gay population’s percentages are different in different cultures. Both statements are false. I come to these threads as an educator, and I think I do a damn good job of it. Now you know two facts you previously didn’t know. You also know that gay men earn more money, have more education, superior cognitive functions, spatial memory and verbal skills. Gay men are more likely to be men of genius, as well. Documented facts.
            I don’t come to these threads to play, nor taunt anyone. I present my information and educate people. If you don’t want to learn, that’s your business. I have many students like you. They generally do not pass my class.

          • DGCJ

            Do you know why gay men seek the help of mental health professionals? It has nothing to do with the fact they are unhappy being gay. Contrary to popular myth, the major reason gay men seek help from a mental health professional is in dealing with idiots like you. If there were no straight a-holes who treated gays badly, gays wouldn’t need help from mental health providers. That’s a fact. The vast majority of gay people are happy being gay and have no problem with it. It’s the stigma from ignorant people like you which makes them commit suicide. This has been proven. Gay teens kill themselves because they have no social support, familial support nor even support from their schools. That’s why I do what I do. Heterosexuals are in dire need of education on this issue, and thank goodness California schools now have mandated gay sensitivity classes.

          • You want it both ways. You insist that gay men are simultaneously much smarter and better and more successful than straights, and also that they are oppressed victims who commit suicide and have mental health issues because their lives are made miserable by Society.

            And how do you know how I treat gays? Or anyone else? Again, you’re just a rage-bag. I’m going to stop giving you narcissistic supply now, unless you say something interesting, which I doubt.

          • DGCJ

            1 I never said gay men commit suicide. I said that gay teens committed suicide, due to the way society treats them (us). This is fact. Deny it all you want, but it is a fact.
            2 yes, of course gay men do better in life. It’s not just because we work harder. It’s because we are born with gifts that straight men lack. I’m sorry that hurts your feelings, but it is a fact. Gay men have superior cognitive functions, spatial memory and verbal skills. This is scientifically verifiable. It sets us apart from you biologically.
            Does that make you sad?
            Tissue?

          • DGCJ

            It appears that you want it both ways. You insist that being homosexual is not hardwired, and failed to produce any evidence of this. Where’s your proof? You claim that gays commit suicide at higher rates, and are less successful than straight men, but you didn’t provide any valid reasons why you think gays commit suicide, nor was I convinced that gays earn less money. My life experience tells me the exact opposite. All the gay men I know are highly successful in their professions, far more than the heterosexuals I know. I my own family, I’m the only one to get a Ph D, or even go to college. I live in America’s most expensive city, and have lived on both coasts.

          • DGCJ

            When there comes a time when your civil rights are put to a vote because of your biological make-up, or you can lose your job for this, we can talk. Until then, you don’t know squat about what gays endure in society. I suggest you not comment on this until you experience what we’ve experienced. Heterosexuals are collectively immature playground bullies when it comes to gay people. It’s embarassing to your group and yet another reason I’m happy I was born homosexual. You won’t hear about any instances of gays killing straights because they’re different.

          • DGCJ

            My husband has three heterosexual brothers. Two of them are recently divorced, and one of them just got remarried. He works mainly with couples, and he says the heterosexual couples are ten thousand times worse than the gay couples. Gay couples have better communication skills, and it makes us better suited to parenting.

          • DGCJ

            Thanks for pointing out that the heterosexuals who voted against gay marriage were playground bullies. I’m glad you are finally seeing what immature children you were. Banning gay marriage did one thing: it make legalization go much faster.
            Thanks, idiots!
            HAHAHAHAHAHA!

      • DGCJ

        That was truly stupid. First off, most gay people I know who have children have heterosexual children. It’s not the way this works. Why are heterosexuals so clueless? Really, you are stupid people. .

        • You don’t seem too swift yourself. This thread is two-and-a-half weeks old. That means that, spam it all you like, nobody but this moderator is ever going to benefit from your wisdom.

          • DGCJ

            You read it. That’s good enough for me. You’ve been educated. The choice to absorb it or not is your problem.

          • Educated? You mean called names by some spamming rage-bag?

            Seriously, dude, where do you teach? What do you teach? You keep bragging about it. What are you hiding?

          • DGCJ

            Do you know what spamming is?
            I haven’t done any spamming.
            I thought this was a “dead” thread?
            Moron.
            Tell me where you live. Your phone number, your address and your employer’s name, and I’ll tell you the university where I teach. Deal?

          • DGCJ

            You are one of the stupidest people I’ve ever encountered on the internet blog world, and that says a lot. I’ve been doing this for at least eight years. Do you honestly expect me to tell a complete idiot stranger on the internet my place of employment? Seriously? You’re THAT dense?

          • DGCJ

            Nobody is going to benefit from my wisdom?
            What the hell are you doing here, if not benefiting from my wisdom? I don’t even remember making any comments to you to begin with…

    • El Martyachi

      Though the mills of God grind slowly;Yet they grind exceeding small;
      Though with patience He stands waiting,
      With exactness grinds He all.

      As an aside, the author of that poem has a gay porn star name.

    • El Martyachi

      Does she have kids?

      • Clink9

        Yup. But we all gots to be pro gay!

        • DGCJ

          But we all gots to be pro straight! Have you ever thought that there might be people who oppose the heterosexual lifestyle?
          I’m one of them:
          teen pregnancy
          abortion
          abuse of women
          rape
          Those are some of the reasons to oppose heterosexuality.
          Those are some of the reasons to oppose heterosexuality.
          Those are some of the reasons to oppose heterosexuality.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            Oi, da gay catholic jew has the same jimmy two times problem that I do.

          • DGCJ

            What?

    • DGCJ

      Ironically, the same idiots who “oppose” homosexuality (whatever that means, because how can you oppose a physical and biological characteristic?), are the same idiots who usually oppose abortion. Guess that won’t be working out for ya?

      • If homosexuality is 100 hardwired, how do you explain the Spartans? The British upper classes? Some cultures clearly produce more gays than others.

        • DGCJ

          The Canadian idiot I was respending to said that identical twins share the same DNA and genes 100 percent. That’s false.
          The gay population is universally the same throughout all cultures. The variable is the extend to which they are accepted by the straight morons, like you.
          And you wonder why gay teens commit suicide? Look in a mirror. Gay adults don’t commit suicide more than straights. Gays seek mental health help because of idiots like you:

          • “The gay population is universally the same throughout all cultures. “

            What on Earth are you basing this on? Are you just kind of intuiting it? I mean, is it just that you somehow know that there were lots of secretly gay guys throughout history who never came out?

            But, say, if people can be pressured into acting straight, can people also be pressured into acting gay?

          • DGCJ

            Moron, gays in the Middle East face death if they come out of the closet. Are you that stupid? Really?
            Yes, there are many gays in the Middle East. They just cannot be open about it. Go onto the gay dating site Scruff, and look up how many guys in Iran are looking for sex. Pakistan, too. Etc.
            You’re truly an idiot.

          • You still need some kind of evidence to back up your claim that the number of gays is consistent across populations and throughout history. That’s your assertion.

          • DGCJ

            That’s an observation, not an assertion. Like I said, go onto the gay dating apps on your IPhone and tell me there aren’t thousands and thousands of gays in Iran, Russia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc. It’s common sense that the gay population is the same percentage in every culture. I have a friend living in Saudi Arabia, and he says gay sex is extremely common there, just not discussed.

          • DGCJ

            I would need some evidence that the gay population differs over time, and that there are more gays in some populations than others. Until you produce it, my statement stands. I’ve traveled on every continent, but Antarctica. I can state unequivocally that my life experience has taught me that homosexuals are everywhere, and in the same percentage of the population. Yes, I’ve even been to China, and saw gay men cruising for sex at Tiananmen Square! Being that I’m not really attracted to Asians, I didn’t care. I also saw the same thing in Moscow’s Red Square and at the Bolshoi Opera. The Russians want the world to think they don’t have homosexuals, but clearly they do. Their greatest composer was a known homosexual, Tchaikovsky.

          • DGCJ

            Sexual behavior is always a choice, idiot. Sexual orientation isn’t a choice, and you cannot change it. Yes, many gay men have historically been trapped into heterosexual relationships just to stay alive. Are you 12? God you’re stupid.

        • DGCJ

          Who says homosexuality is 100 percent hardwired? Is left handedness 100 percent hardwired? Do you think people choose to be left handed? We know for a fact that handedness and sexual orientation is not chosen. Sexual orientation cannot be changed. The ex-gays agree with that, too. They admit they are still homosexual in orientation.

          • You’re the one who’s asserted that the percentage of homosexuals is stable across all populations. That amounts to asserting that culture has no influence.

            You really need to learn to back up your assertions. Just yelling at people isn’t the same thing as making a point.

          • DGCJ

            Yes, the percentage of homosexuals in the population does not change over time, and is the same in all cultures. That’s what I said, and I stand by it. That’s because sexual orientation is biological. Eight percent of all male sheep are exclusively homosexual. The self reporting gay population of Brazil is 8.6 percent. Using my brain, I would say that the gay population is eight percent universally, cross culturally and over time remains the same.

          • DGCJ

            I thought you said this was a dead thread?
            Moron…
            If it’s dead, why are you responding to me?
            I just left a comment to somebody on another thread who had left a comment seven months ago. I didn’t realize this was a crime. Perhaps to Black Mamba it’s a crime.
            Jesus, you’re pathetic.

          • I didn’t say it was a crime, Mr. Grouchy. It’s just a bit of a waste is all. Dance seems to have quit the field and I’m just killing time waiting for the sleeping pill to kick in.

            Why do you call people so many names? Why are you so desperately angry? Who here has treated you badly?

            I hope you’re not a poster boy for healthy gay emotional adjustment. Unless you think that shrieking, inchoate rage is the way to go through life.

          • DGCJ

            Why are you such an idiot?
            Why do you expect me to tell me everything about my personal life, without offering your own information?
            You’re clearly a stupid person, and that’s an observation, not an insult.
            I can comment on any thread any time I want. I’ve made comments on threads that were two years old. I come here as an educator. You’ve learned from me tonight, like it or not.
            You’re the shrieking one who attacked me for commenting on a thread that was less than two weeks old. Jesus. Grow up.

          • DGCJ

            I’m quite well adjusted, thank you. And, my husband thinks so, too. He’s a therapist and works with crazy heterosexuals every day. He says nobody is crazier than a male heterosexual. I think he’s got a point since 100 percent of mass shooters are heterosexual males, one in four women is abused by a heterosexual male and one in five is raped. Do the math. 98 percent of child molesters are heterosexual males. A case could be made for aborting straight males before they are born. Wouldn’t the world be better off?

          • DGCJ

            Since homosexuality clearly serves a biological function, clearly it will continue to exist in all cultures, all time periods, and in the same percentages over time, just as left handedness continues in the same percentages over time and cross culturally. The Chinese try to re-educate left handed people to be right handed. That doesn’t prevent left handed children from being born. They don’t seem to have figured that out yet.

          • DGCJ

            Despite the efforts of ignorant countries in the Middle East and Africa, gay people continue to be born in those countries, and in the same percentages as anywhere else. That’s all the proof needed that sexual orientation is biological, not a choice, and not changeable.

        • DGCJ

          You spewed this gem:

          Some cultures clearly produce more gays than others.
          Proof?

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        I don’t oppose abortion.
        It’s a choice not to be taken lightly.
        One that you won’t have to make ever.
        So where is your authority on the subject?
        Personal experience?
        Did you accidentally fuck some girl?
        Did she Bill Cosby some sperm out of you?
        Your opinion is not qualified by any understanding of it’s consequences.
        And I got some feeling.
        Some beat boy feeling.
        Some beat boy feeling.
        All over me.
        I love this song:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kxwt8oKEWk

        • DGCJ

          Yep, l will never need an abortion, good point. Yet another reason I’m happy I was born a gay male. I don’t bleed out my hole, either.
          Personally I agree with China’s one child only policy. We have too many humans already here. We don’t need more.

          • An awful lot of girls die in China because of that policy. Before birth and after. Do you hate girls?

          • DGCJ

            I hate the fact we have too many humans. I don’t care what gender they are. It’s not my fault people don’t want female babies. Ask them.

          • DGCJ

            The Chinese seem to hate girls. I have heard that aborted fetuses are sold as health food in China, and people actually eat them. They prefer boys over girls. Go figure.

          • DGCJ

            I’m a gay man, so, NO, I do not hate girls. You’re confusing me with straight men. Are you aware that a woman is raped every nine seconds in the USA? Are you also aware that one in four women is abused?

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            Saying that you ‘don’t bleed out my hole, either’ doesn’t help you in the court of public opinion.
            Way to get fifty percent of the population on your side.

          • DGCJ

            I don’t give a rat’s ass about public opinion. My civil rights aren’t for you to decide. I happen to dislike a lot of aspects of the heterosexual lifestyle. Should you care? No… Why do you think I care about your opinions on anything?
            Hint: I don’t….

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            You’re a cunt now.

          • DGCJ

            You’re borderline. First you upvote me, and then attack me.
            Please seek help.

          • DGCJ

            Sorry, I don’t have a vagina.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            There’s no such thing as civil rights you daft cunt.

          • DGCJ

            Yes, there is such a thing as civil rights.
            Women can now vote. That’s now a civil right.
            Convicted prisoners on death row can get married. That’s a civil right, which they cannot be denied.

  • Xavier

    Silly rabbit, only CIS cell masses can be aborted!

  • Jay Currie

    Well, pro-abortion feminists seem fine with sex selective abortion. Especially among Asian minorities for some reason. Getting rid of female babies does not cross any red lines so no reason to think flushing the festive will pose much of a problem.

    • ntt1

      feministas have invented the horrific crime of cultural imperialism. this is the thought crime that is committed when a disapproving thought is entertained about culturally relativistic diversity and vibrancy, some diverse and vibrant practices are against all they claim to stand for yet the fear of committing cultural imperialism keeps the wise feminista at bay, This allows the third waver to not only blandly ignore sex slavery, Genital mutilation,general oppression of women and child rape. but to actually feel good about how inclusive they are except for white males of course, even the loathsome manginas.

    • It is a horrid insight into their demented worldview.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      Is that like skipping the light fandango?

  • Steven Thompson

    I’ve read that where one of identical twins is homosexual, there’s a 50% chance that the other will be, indicating that a “gay gene” (or, apparently, “gay genes”) will not work in quite so straightforward a manner as a gene for blue eyes or cystic fibrosis. Note that very often in genetics, a single gene can have multiple effects (pleiotropy), and multiple genes can interact to affect the same trait (polygeny). So it’s far more likely that a “gay gene” will predispose one to homosexuality to a greater or lesser extent, depending on what other genes are present in the genome and what environmental factors one is exposed to, and will have other effects as well (that also vary according to what other genes and environmental factors are present). So there won’t be a straightforward, simple test to tell you “will my baby be gay?”

    • SMC_BC

      That’s false. Identical mean 100% the same not 50%.

      • El Martyachi

        I read his comment as meaning that although they would both carry 100% of the same genes, including the so-called gay gene, when twin #1 is gay it’s still a coin toss as to whether twin #2 is too.

      • Steven Thompson

        El Martyachi is right. In addition, I wished to emphasize that [a] genetically identical individuals don’t have to be identical in every respect (identical twins can generally be told apart with practice and don’t have identical personalities), and [b] in point of fact, “identical” twins aren’t genetically identical: since mutations can occur every time a cell divides to make two new cells, identical twins have tiny differences between their genomes.

        • SMC_BC

          Identical twins were formed from the exact same sperm and egg from their father and mother – they share their DNA code with each other. Ergo, if one twin is gay and the other is not it proves there is no gay gene. I think you’re confusing nature and nurture with genetics.

          • Steven Thompson

            Genes produce effects in interaction with the environment. Sometimes, as with genes for, e.g. sickle-cell anemia, no variation likely to be found in the environment will produce a different effect of the gene. In other cases, this is not so; there are plenty of genes that increase the probability of some trait appearing, but not to 100%.

          • DGCJ

            False! Identical twins don’t share the same DNA and cannot be charged with the same crime:

            http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/
            Please get an education and stop saying stupid things on the internet. You embarrass yourself, and Canada.

          • DGCJ

            Please stop with your bullshit. You are truly embarrassing yourself talking about something you obviously know nothing about. I’m a professor at a Catholic university in California. Please just shut up already. Really, it’s embarrassing.

          • What do you teach? Is your expertise in genetics? Is that why everyone should just shut up when you link an article? (“Charged with the same crime”? Where did that come from?) Which university do you teach at? I’m curious to know whether you can contribute anything to this conversation other than boasting and rage.

          • DGCJ

            I don’t reveal my identity to a-holes on the Internet:
            I added more than you did to this conversation- it’s called information and education. Look it up: I thought you said this was a dead thread. Why are you responding to me?
            Stupid…

          • DGCJ

            A two week ago conversation is dead? Since when? And, you’re the idiot that keeps responding on this dead conversation. Like I said, straight men are inferior to gay men:

            1 homosexual males have larger brains:
            http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1815538,00.html

            2 homosexual men have higher cognitive functions, superior spatial memory
            and verbal skills:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

            3 homosexual men earn more money and have more education than heterosexual
            men:

            http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/01/gay-couples-more-educated-higher-income-than-heterosexual-couples

            4 homosexual men have better sex more often
            (no link required for that
            one!)

            5 homosexual men have larger pen ises than straight men per capita
            http://www.salon.com/1999/11/04/size

          • DGCJ

            Here’s you:
            Where do you live?
            What’s your address?
            Give me the name of your employer.
            You’re a moron.
            And, you accuse me of commenting on a dead thread, and bombard me with comments.
            Idiot.

          • I’m not the one going on endlessly about my job.

          • DGCJ

            You seem jealous of my job. It’s my day job, by the way. My career is as a concert pianist. I only teach at a university to help pay bills between concerts. and get health insurance. It’s not something that defines me.
            I’m sorry your occupation is so unsatisfying that you have to attack mine.

          • DGCJ

            Incidentally, I came to this godforsaken blog (I have no idea who operates it, or even what it’s about. I did not read the article), because I was responding to comments made by SMC_BC who seems obsessed with gay issues. I was responding to his comments which were clearly false regarding identical twins having the same genes and DNA. I get really pissed off with people who say nonsense like that. It has been proven a very long time ago that identical twins don’t share the same genes, nor DNA.
            I’m an educator. If you don’t want me on your blog, then I will leave. I’m just telling you how I got here.

      • DGCJ

        False. Identical twins are not identical. They don’t share the same genes nor DNA:

        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html?_r=0

    • DGCJ

      Not to mention the fact that identical twins do not share the same genes, nor DNA. That is a myth perpetuated by the religious right:

  • SMC_BC

    Identical twin studies prove there is no such thing as a gay gene. But even without the studies it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out had there ever been a gay gene it would have been bred out because gays don’t reproduce. Duh. That said, it poses an interesting question for the ill-informed. One wonders if the kooky left will alter their belief of a woman’s right to choose given their love affair with all things gay.

    • DD_Austin

      Actually they do, for family and blending in reasons

      Here’s proof

      https://mypartyspants.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/trudeau665x443-401×349.jpg?w=300&h=261

    • Steven Thompson

      Some gays do reproduce. But you’re assuming that a “gay gene” has only one effect, and will produce that effect in every one it occurs in. Again, it is well known to geneticists that often, multiple genes affect a trait (so that a “gay gene” might have one effect in conjunction with some other gene, but a different effect in conjunction with another), and that a given gene may affect multiple traits. It is conceivable that some particular gene could make one significantly less likely to pass on one’s genes in some gene combinations, and significantly more likely to do so in other gene combinations.

      • SMC_BC

        Eight major studies of identical twins in the U.S., Australia and Scandinavia all arrived at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way. They conclude the predominant thing that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not other has to be post-birth factors.

    • DGCJ

      Identical twin studies prove absolutely nothing, since identical twins do not share the same genes, nor DNA. God you’re uneducated. Embarrassing.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html?_r=0

      Thousands of gays have biological children, you idiot. Not to mention the fact that sexual orientation is not passed from parent to child, just as left handedness is not an inheritable trait. Is there a genetic influence in sexual orientation, absolutely. Is it the sole determining factor in our sexual orientation? Absolutely not:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/04/the-science-of-sexuality-how-our-genes-make-us-gay-or-straight/

    • Kara Connor

      Cite the peer reviewed studies claiming that there is no such thing. Also learn about epigenetics. Note also that until very recently the genes involved in something as apparently simple as being left handed weren’t known, e.g.
      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130912203216.htm
      Twin studies show a higher than chance correlation of sexual orientation, e.g. Bailey, J. M. and D. S. Benishay (1993), “Familial Aggregation of Female Sexual Orientation,” American Journal of Psychiatry 150(2): 272-277.

      • SMC_BC

        You must be one of the kooky left. Here’s a little lesson on epigenetics for you: http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/epigenetics/twins/
        Ergo, as I wrote, there is no such thing as a gay gene.

        • Kara Connor

          From the paper you cited (re. schizophrenia in the example)

          This difference is evidence for a strong genetic component in susceptibility to schizophrenia. However, the fact that both identical twins in a pair don’t develop the disease 100% of the time indicates that other factors are involved.”

          So your own citation actually contradicts what you claim. Try again.

  • Tom Forsythe

    I can see the ads now: Abortion – Now 10% less crunchy!

  • Frances

    And for all those who visit tiny graves, this whole discussion of “choice” rings very hollow.

  • DMB
  • Gaian

    Another attempt retarded propaganda by BCF. Does anyone really thing that there were no abortions be performed before 1973?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion

  • Not_Crazy

    I don’t think you should abort if you do not want a baby than don’t get your self knocked up

  • DGCJ

    Since by all outward measures gay men outperform heterosexual men in income, education, cognitive functions, spatial memory and verbal skills, it is a no brainer that heterosexual men would be intimidated by those of us lucky enough to have the biological gift of homosexuality. Many of the world’s greatest geniuses were homosexual males, that includes Alan Turing, the father of modern computer science. It is sad to think that heterosexual men feel so inferior to us gay men that they wouldn’t want us around. But, that’s what bullies do. Bullying is based on inferiority complex and feelings of being lesser than someone else. This sort of reminds me of how the Nazis wanted to eliminate the Jews, who were clearly highly intelligent and successful people. The insecurities of man never cease to amaze me. You can bet that the bans on gay marriage in the USA were based largely on this phenomenon. It was a form of bullying, and it was a disgrace to the fine heterosexual people that were in the minority when the voting happened.