The Poverty Line Was Designed Assuming Every Family Had a Housewife Who Was a ‘Skillful Cook’

Consider this a lesson about taking statistics at face value.

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    I love these “why are there poor people” stories.
    It reminds me of Leo Tolstoy’s opening line from “Anna Karena”.

    “Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”
    Mostly, you can replace “happy” with ‘middle class’ and “unhappy” with ‘poor’.
    There are few reliable paths toward economic self-sufficiency, while there are many more roads to economic impoverishment.

    Perhaps we should demand more critical examination of 19th Century Russian literature and less midnight basketball?
    I’m being factious for the most part, as most chronically poor people have as much chance of “getting” Tolstoy, as they will ever “get” while they are poor, and then of course do anything about it.

    Having said that, it should be explained repeatedly to all school kids from the 6th grade on, but that will also never happen as the system is populated with SJWs that have an economic interest in promoting the lie that “it’s all Whitey’s fault”.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      Sorry man.
      Anna Karenina.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        My God!
        I have been bested by iPad’s spell check.

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          I quit smoking nine days ago so I must be a supercilious cunt right now.

          • Justin St.Denis

            Perhaps just a tiny bit. Kicking the habit is a bitch. I’ll cheer you on at intervals if you want.

            May I suggest a solid sit-down with a glass of whiskey, headphones, and John Martyn’s SAPPHIRE album. In the alternative, Prince’s PURPLE RAIN soundtrack worked miracles for me in a similar circumstance. I awoke to LET’S GO CRAZY at ear-splitting volume for 18 months back in the early 1980s. It got me through……………..

          • canminuteman

            Was it worth it?

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            Over fourteen bucks a pack.
            Yeah, it’s worth it.
            And even more so when I figure that’s about ten bucks the government’s not getting from me everytime I don’t buy a pack.

          • Shebel

            I just went out and bought a pack of smokes. I feel so guilty. They don’t even taste very good.
            Weeks of Vaping and I fuck up. .
            I guess that I may as well drink some beer so that I can enjoy them.
            Nobody has ever accused me of having will power.

          • jayme

            Enjoy the beer (as best you can) and when you’re ready again, try again. Being discouraged is natural but isn’t useful for you in accomplishing your goal. Again just shrug and get back to it when you’re ready. I hope this doesn’t come across as preachy – I tell my friend the same sorts of things and she says it helps. She’s doing the vape thing as well.

          • Shebel

            It is not preachy at all. I deserve every bit of vitriol that people can lob at me for being so weak. )))
            What really pisses me off is that I am not really enjoying them.

          • lzzrd

            Stay the course, I was voted most likely to fail, in my stop smoking class 23 yrs ago. Haven’t smoked since, (knock on wood). Develop a good 1 min distraction to use every time you want to have one. Good Luck……….

          • lzzrd

            Oh, another thing to help you along, with the struggle…..Mark Twain once said…..” Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world, I’ve done it lots of times”…….;0)…….

  • Minicapt

    The 1992 article might be citing an original document from the Thirties, but by 1992, Stats Can had been using the term “Loe Income Cut-Off” for about two decades. As with much of the Atlantic’s output these days, the emphasis is on wordsmithing instead of knowledge.


  • Shebel

    And a Husband that actually worked to provide for his Family.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      You know, I think that explanation is not even remotely true, but instead an explanation that is designed to make us all feel better, but brings us no closer to the truth.
      Look at these absent fathers.
      Most of them are in and out of prison with violent criminal records, little much more than a 3rd to 6th grade education, so in that sense I don’t see them bringing anything good to the table.
      Besides, what decent guy would run away from his own children?
      No many.
      Did you abandon your family because your wife could get more on welfare?
      I bet you didn’t, and wouldn’t.

      • Shebel

        I am talking about the absentee Fathers.
        ” What guy would run away from his own Children” ? Nobody.
        Unless society has made it almost impossible for him to stay home and be a DAD. That is what we have done. That is what we have achieved. This is the Liberal way of HELPING people.
        Destroy the Family UNIT.
        Successfully accomplished.
        Now spend billions as to figure out how to make Gov’t replace DADDY.

        Meanwhile — spend a few more Billion to figure out why your Black and Native Victims are over represented in the Prison System.
        This really pisses me off.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          “I am talking about the absentee Fathers.”
          And I wasn’t?
          That’s all I was talking about!

          These fathers are not absent because it makes good tax sense, or they sat down and did a P&L workout of their family.
          They left because they are dirt bags.
          The government didn’t cause this.
          These are blacks doing what comes naturally.
          They are doing what they want to do, not because anyone made them.

          • Shebel

            It would be real easy for me to agree with you , but, in all honesty–I simply can’t.
            These people were sucked into the social system long ago.
            It is very difficult to break out of that mindset. All these Gov’t programs that supposedly are designed to help– always make make the poor schmuck feel even lower as they have to report like a good l’il doggie to some brain dead piece of shit that evaluates their efforts.
            There is actually more Pride in bleeding the system and selling dope.
            Our Social System was NOT designed to help people. It was designed to trap people and enslave them for the Liberal Empire.

  • BillyHW

    Lolz women actually putting their families ahead of themselves and knowing how to cook!

    • Justin St.Denis

      Yeah, that struck me as a tad funny as well. But my dad was the main cook of the house when I was a kid, with Mom on “salad duty”. Both worked. My brothers and I are the main cooks in our respective families as well. My sons all picked it up from me. Patterns, wheels, spirals, and the Windmills of your Mind…….

      • Exile1981

        In our house the wife and me share cooking duties depending on what day of thd week and what food items.

  • Hard Little Machine

    Fast food is generally cheaper than quality home made food. Also what with needing 2 or 3 part time jobs no one has the time. Hence the creation of what in America are called ‘food desserts’. These are urban and suburban areas where there simply is little to access to grocery stores. For example, 17% of the children in North Carolina go to bed hungry. In a nation were 49 million people are on food stamps.

  • We are seeing generations of people who not only have no life skills but have no scruples. How do they think people lived before there was welfare? Do they think people wanted to be dependent on others?

    If one can live off of the largesse of the state with one’s living quarters and major appliances paid for, how badly off is one? Try going to a country where poverty really means poverty.

    There are people who are genuinely struggling and mismanagement in the government isn’t helping. There are also people who think the world owes them a favour for having dropped out of school in the fourth grade.

    • Exile1981

      Years ago I had a young guy working for me and neither him or his live in girl friend had any cooking skils. They had never been taught.

      It’s because of seeing them get scurvy and other issues that the wife and me decided all our kids would learn to cook. Even when we are busy we try and teach.

      • Not knowing how to prepare food is considered a source of shame in my family.

        • Exile1981

          Not preparing food for guests is an insult among Italians.
          I had a meeting with a client today and brought in home made raspberry jam, back two weeks ago I brought them fresh corn bread muffins and in June I had a meeting with the regulatory body for my industry and all the food and snacks for the day long meeting where home made – muffins, cookies, cheese (3 types); I even had a fresh rhubarb and apple syrup that we mixed with ginger ale for the punch .
          No crappy tim-bits at meetings I host.

          • canminuteman

            You made the cheese too? That is really impressive!

          • Exile1981

            Yes, if you search my name you’ll find i contribute to some online amatuer cheese making blogs…. though as a guy i’m in the minority.

          • Interesting.

            Do you make Paneer cheese?

          • Exile1981

            I have, though I’ve gotten lots of complements on my Parmesan; I also do cheddar, gouda, gruyere, mostly hard and semi hard types.
            I made a rum infused cheddar that was popular; the heavily salted gouda I made was very popular with my oldest – I think she polished off a pound in a single sitting. I’m not a big fan of dill but the dill cheddar went over well.
            I’ll admit some of my early cheeses where less palatable. I tried a brie early in my days and it never set correctly so it was more like a lumpy sour cream than an actual cheese.
            I had a batch

          • Yes, I’ve heard something like.

            And use a special wax.

          • Exile1981

            I have a wax pot (it’s an old large crock pot) for heating wax and yes it’s actual cheese wax.
            If your ever out in Alberta drop in for cheese and crackers…. the wife makes wonderful home made crackers.

          • Mmm…. crackers….

          • (deep bow and hat removal)

          • Exile1981

            Home made food at meetings always goes over better than a box of stale donuts; and people are more relaxed and stay on task better with a full stomach.

          • I would be worried that someone wouldn’t like my scones and then I would never hear the end of it.

            That or those people who are perennially allergic to everything would hassle me.

          • Exile1981

            I put out ingredient lists and those people who are allergic to life can cry in the corner or eat the food; either way it’s not my problem.
            I once did a dinner for 350 people where we served a well over 500 dishes. It was in a hall with 6 stoves in the kitchen and there were 6 cooks; 2 people just doing dishes and one person coordinating the food service. Each dish served between 20-50 people and had an ingredient card and was presented to the head table (for them to sample) before being placed out on the buffet tables for the rest of the people to partake.

          • Wow.

            I get overwhelmed at Christmas supper.