Ayatollah Roberts and His Sharia Council

I am in favor of arranging the laws to permit gay couples to arrange their domestic affairs in whatever way they see fit, and to have those affairs blessed by whatever authorities are inclined to bless them: Episcopalian church, Sam’s Club, Taylor Swift, Grand Mystic Royal Order of the Nobles of the Ali Baba Temple of the Shrine — it’s a free country, Sunshine. Unlike Barack Obama, I did not arrive at my views on same-sex affairs recently and at a moment of political convenience. But, that being said, the idea that lurking in the penumbras of our 18th-century Constitution is a fundamental national right to gay marriage is simply preposterous. It is not there. It is a fiction, and, just like the Harry Potter novels, the fact that it is very, very popular does not mean that it is not fiction.

  • Ron MacDonald

    I don’t have a problem with same-sex unions, but it should be a secular civil ceremony. Marriage should be exclusively a religious ceremony for those who wish it. Churches should retain the right to provide or refuse to provide a marriage ceremony for same-sex marriage based upon its religious tenets. In more recent history, Western European marriages started out as a business contract to establish hereditary lines, the Catholic Church didn’t fully take over the business of marriage until 1563 at the Council of Trent.

  • Tom Forsythe

    Homosexuals already had the right to live together, share property, grant power of attorney to each other, etc. But they desperately wanted what the last generation of liberals said was “just a piece of paper” in order to force everyone else to accept them as “normal.”

  • cmh

    the only reason this deviancy appears popular is because people are afraid of being ostracized.

    • David

      ostracized and bankrupted

      Judge: Oregon bakery should pay gay couple $135,000 over wedding cake


      An Oregon judge has ruled that the owners of a Portland-area bakery who refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple should pay the couple $135,000 in damages, state officials said Tuesday.

      Administrative Law Judge Alan McCullough issued a proposed order last week that could mean Sweet Cakes by Melissa bakery owners Aaron and Melissa Klein will have to pay $60,000 in damages to Laurel Bowman-Cryer, and $75,000 in damages to Rachel Bowman-Cryer, for emotional suffering.

      In 2013, when the two women were planning their nuptials, the Kleins, citing their religious beliefs, refused to bake the cake. The gay couple married in 2014 after a federal judge struck down the state’s same-sex marriage ban.

      The state’s Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI) contends the bakery owners violated the state’s anti-discrimination laws because the shop is not a registered religious institution.

      Both sides of the civil rights case have 10 days to either file an exception to the order, or ask for more time to respond, BOLI spokesman Charlie Burr said.

      The order will not be final until Commissioner Brad Avakian issues a final decision on the damages, which could include lowering or raising the amount. His decision is expected by summer.

      “Our agency is committed to the fair and thorough enforcement of all Oregon civil rights laws including the equality act of 2007,” Burr said.

      Under Oregon law, businesses cannot discriminate or refuse service based on sexual orientation.

      “The facts of this case clearly demonstrate that the Kleins unlawfully discriminated against the Complainants,” BOLI officials said in a statement.

      An attorney for the couple, Paul Thompson, said he could not comment on the case because it is still pending. An attorney for the bakery owners could not immediately be reached for comment.

      In response to the proposed order, the bakery owners started a GoFundMe campaign, but it was shut down over the weekend by the crowdfunding website, the bakery’s Facebook page said.

      North Carolina-based religious organization Samaritan’s Purse is raising money for the couple in a post on their website entitled: “Help persecuted Christian couple in Oregon fined for refusing to serve lesbians.”

      The judge’s ruling was less than the $150,000 sought by administrative prosecutors and did not propose awarding damages for alleged harm from media coverage of the case.

      • G

        “North Carolina-based religious organization Samaritan’s Purse is raising money for the couple in a post on their website entitled: “Help persecuted Christian couple in Oregon fined for refusing to serve lesbians.”

        Good for them. But I think they should be funding an advertising campaign against the judge to screw his chances of re-election.

        When the judge loses his bid for re-election phone him up on election night and say,
        “Hello, I represent samaritan’s purse. You know, the CHRISTIAN group? We’re the ones who f**ked your re-election chances. And I just wanted to phone you up and say how delighted I am to have helped put a biased, politically correct, free loading hack like you out to pasture.
        Now run on over to Starbucks with your newly divorced gay friends and have a good cry over your loss – asshole”.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      I will state quite clearly anytime someone raises this issue that a kid’s right to a mother and a father supersedes any adult’s rights.

  • David

    The thin edge of the wedge. Let your imagination run wild as nothing is beyond the pale to these people.

  • Helios Megistos

    The latest rulings by the Soviet Court of the US are a clear signal that what was left of the Constitution is now wholly shredded; a war of liberation now appears to be the only viable and logical response to such preposterous judicial overreach! https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAQQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bostonteapartyship.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F09%2Flexington-green.jpg&ei=cZeRVc_qC5fUoASMubqYCA&psig=AFQjCNE7ZT4qRaCSlq6JVI0XRexnAP3KfQ&ust=1435691245267231

    • canminuteman

      –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,

      • Helios Megistos

        “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government …In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.” — Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #28, 1787

  • Clear Thinker

    Same sex marriage thousands of dollars, same sex divorce, priceless for only one in the union. You have been warned.

  • Lorensacho

    Of course when the Supreme Court rule in favor of something dear to the hearts of conservatives, it is the best court in the world.

    • G

      Name a few great SCOTUS victories conservatives have won in the last 8 years.

      • G

        This garbage that we should all clap our hands when nine pompous asses ram their own personal trendy biases down our throats should convince everyone to start ignoring the law or sabotaging it..

        There is an old saying “The king’s edict extends only to the range of his muskets”. In other words if you can’t enforce it I am not obliged to obey it.

        If you are public official and a gay couple come in to be married and you don’t think agree then suddenly become …”very sick” and leave.
        (or throw their paperwork in the shredder as soon as their back is turned. THAT works too.)

        I once talked to a church minister who said that if a gay couple come to him to be married he would make certain his schedule was full.

        –“Are you available Monday?”
        – – “Nope busy” (combing his hair)
        –“Are you available Tuesday?”
        – – “Nope busy” (watching TV)
        –“Are you available Wednesday?”
        – – “Nope busy” (counting clouds)
        ect ect ect

    • canminuteman

      We like them when they act like judges who actually know the law. Most the time they act like retarded children who just make shit up as they go along.

    • Count me out. I want them to respect the Constitution, period.

  • Lorensacho

    To G. If you have to ask then you are past fact and totally into ideology.

  • Lorensacho

    For those of you who are too lazy to do the
    research, here are a list of Supreme Court decisions that went against Obama
    and the liberals, Just this week, In a huge defeat for the Obama
    administration’s environmental agenda, the Supreme Court struck down
    forthcoming EPA regulations concerning emissions of mercury and other toxins,
    ruling 5-4 that the EPA did not properly consider the costs of regulating such
    emissions from coal-fired power plants. Also this week, the Court made
    constitutional the use of the lethal injection drug Midazolam. This decision
    goes against anti-death penalty groups. Last year the Court ruled in favor of
    Hobby Lobby that for religious reasons did not want to pay for contraception
    for its female workers. In 2013 the Court Supreme Court Invalidated key parts
    of Voting Rights Act which permitted states to place barriers on minorities and
    Black voting. There are dozens more decisions that pleased conservatives and
    angered the American left.

    • Out of interest, what barriers are there and minorities voting?

  • Lorensacho

    To Black Mamba. Barriers to voting are as follows. Closing the polling stations on Sunday in areas where poor people cannot afford to take a day off to vote and many Blacks are bussed to these stations on Sunday by their churches. This goes along with shortening the days for advance polling. Locating polling stations in poor neighborhoods far away where there is not even any bus service. Being short staffed making waiting to vote a hardship. Need I go on? Voting should be encouraged not discouraged and the discouragement is only among the poor who mostly vote Democrat. The system is corrupt and undemocratic and OK by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    • Voting should be strongly discouraged. People (of any race) who are too indifferent, clueless or stoned to vote should not be voting. People who need a celebrity or a campaign to encourage them to vote should not be voting.

      The black unemployment rate in the States is about twice the white unemployment rate, so it seems to me that if shortening the hours stations are open discriminates against anyone it’s whites.

      If they are deliberately moving polling stations away from certain areas that’s bad, I admit. Do you have a link handy?