Dutch city of Utrecht to experiment with a universal, unconditional income

The Dutch city of Utrecht will start an experiment which hopes to determine whether society works effectively with universal, unconditional income introduced.

The city has paired up with the local university to establish whether the concept of ‘basic income’ can work in real life, and plans to begin the experiment at the end of the summer holidays.

Basic income is a universal, unconditional form of payment to individuals, which covers their living costs. The concept is to allow people to choose to work more flexible hours in a less regimented society, allowing more time for care, volunteering and study.

  • canminuteman

    Good luck with that. They’ll have money to pay for that for about one month. All the productive people will leave and the moochers will move in.

    • wallyj180

      Your ‘mooching’ is another’s retirement plan.

      Don’t judge me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Heh;)

        • wallyj180

          Damn all of you .

          I just want to fish and get paid for it.

          If baiting you is wrong.
          I don’r want to be right.

      • lolwut?

        Folks, here’s a story about Wally the Moocher
        He was a lowdown hoochie coocher
        He was the roughest, toughest frail
        But Minnie had a heart as big as a whale

        Hidee hidee hidee hi!
        Hode hode hode ho!

      • WalterBannon

        sign me up for mooching too. paid enough, long enough. get me my Obama phone too

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          And Tito get me a tissue.

    • Exile1981

      Just look at how well it worked at Plymouth Plantation; they nearly starved.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        I learned about that listening to the Von Mises Institute lectures online.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      ‘I decree today that life is simply taking and not giving.
      England is mine, it owes me a living.’
      I was going to use the actual Smiths song Still Ill and then I found this by accident:

    • What a bunch of f*cking idiots.

      Even a stupid leftist knows what will happen.

      Send me some of the money, you fools.

  • Dana Garcia

    The author of “Rise of the Robots” thinks some sort of guaranteed income will be needed because there won’t be any jobs in 10 or 20 years due to automation.

    Utrecht’s plan sounds like a total alien magnet, but it will be an interesting experiment.


  • wallyj180

    I’m in.

    I’ve worked for 40 years and I think it is time to relax on a guaranteed income for doing … whatever I want to do, yahoo.

    I volunteer to study the correlation between alcohol consumed and fish caught. It is what I care about.

    • The weird thing is that if you look at all government expenditures it can almost appear possible. I’m certain it would fall apart but in theory it could work, but like all theory practical application tells the tale.

      • mobuyus

        Ya see that’s what I’m talking about.

      • Xavier

        It’s basically a communist pyramid scheme.

        • I agree collapse is inevitable. But then again as things stand now with the working classes being exploited to pay extortionately high wage and benefit rates for government employees we are headed for a collapse anyway. Ontario is being run exactly as Detroit was by the unions for the unions and to hell with everyone else.

      • Gettingby

        Considering about 50% of people work for the government, and another 30% off some sort of benefit, the path from what we have to what they propose isn’t all that far. Universal Income in some form will happen.

        • That’s a good point.

        • just a thought

          One small step for socialism, one giant stumble for mankind?
          (Lovely full moon were having this century)

    • mobuyus

      I my self would like a government grant to study wave patterns on Hawaiian beaches.

      • You can get one of those, we pay for way crazier stuff.

      • just a thought

        Give a man a fish, and you can feed him for a day. Give him a fishing pole, and he can rent it to someone who likes to fish, and live off the income.

    • WalterBannon

      will that paper be peer reviewed professor?

  • kkruger71

    Although it doesn’t mention it in the article, the fact that it is an experiment leads me to believe it will have the same issue as the Canadian one everybody always talks about, that it is for a finite amount of time. All the smarter, younger people will realize that by just staying on this system they will end up screwing themselves in 4 or 5 years when it ends, so they will either get an education or get a head start on the dumber ones by working now and building experience/seniority etc.
    There is no way to accurately test how this would really work out until it is guaranteed to people for life.

  • Xavier

    Study, my ass. It’s propaganda and lies, and they’ll swear it’s working great even as they’re begging for more money and hiding the unemployment figures.

  • Brett_McS

    I predict “stripper” will be a hold out.

  • Appreciative Reader

    My parents’ home country is getting collectively more foolish as time passes.
    My folks & my siblings came to Canada in the late ’50s as classic immigrants who arrived with virtually nothing, but had a strong work ethic & a firm moral compass. I’m the only one born here, but I’m sure this latest “experiment” is going to get talked about in the next family get-together, with all agreeing: “Just when you think things couldn’t get any nuttier in the ‘old country’ …”

    • There is something in the air, this may be indicative of a much larger societal upheaval to come. The disconnect between the political class and the “forgotten man” is vast.

  • Minicapt