Italy’s immigration problem: UK, Europe take note

Gypsies in Romania. Source.

Say what you like about the economy (still nowhere near where it was in 2007), the Ukraine or the Middle East, there is one overriding topic of conversation in the bars and dinner parties of Italy: immigration.

It is not such a difficult subject to broach as it is in Britain, there not being the vocal politically correct class here. You can introduce the topic without looking over your shoulder or the police investigating you for thought crime.

Once engaged in conversation, however, it becomes clear there is a growing consensus which Guardian readers would find alarming. Pretty well everyone you meet thinks something serious has to be done.

And to make it more politically incorrect, Italians do not in principle have a problem with immigration numbers per se, they have a problem with who is coming. Top of the hate list are the Roma — Romany people. A recent survey by the Pew Research Center said fully 90 percent of Italians detested them…

  • Blacksmith

    I don’t get the Roma hate it has been around for centuries, I admit I don’t know any so maybe there is a reason but I don’t see it. On the other hand I do see a reason to be very wary of Africans, especially as they may be muslim and their intolerance and hate is well documented.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      Hate does not typically last hundreds of years without it being well founded.
      The Gypsies are busy renewing the reasons to hate them almost everyday.

      How does a people get let into a country where 90% of the resident population hates them? That seems rather undemocratic to me, no matter how politically incorrect it might be.

      • Blacksmith

        This is all probably true, again my personal experience is lacking thus why ‘I don’t get it’. It was mainly a lead into my second statement regarding what I think is the real threat, pisslamist.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Just be arround Gypsies and all will be revealed.
          I used to never understand why some whites (I’m talking group dynamics here so save your stories about that one good black friend you have) hated black-people, now after the last several years, I understand why.
          There are probibly lots of groups that are worthy of hatred, but I never encounter them, so I don’t know, and if I saw a bunch of them getting slaughtered on the news, I’d probibly feel bad for them.

      • Justin

        Whites hated and still hate the Jews too but love muslims and “gays”. why?

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Must “Whites” DON’T “love” Muslims and gays yet still hate the Jews, so your very premise is faulty.
          But going back to what I said, generational hatred against of one group by another has to have something perpetuating it, or you would still have the descendants of the Nomans and Saxons still hating each other, yet you don’t, WHY?

    • Gypsies have a tendency to be a bit lot criminal.

      • Blacksmith

        Again my personal experience in this is lacking. I don’t doubt it could be very true. I was using it to segue into my real point and that is beware pisslamist.

    • Justin

      What about hundreds of millions of Africans who are Christians in Africa?
      Should they be hated too? As for Roma, if Jesus returns to earth today, he would feel more at home in a large, poor traditional Roma family than with a “transgenred” or “gay” white middle class Westerners.

      • Blacksmith

        What part of “I don’t get it” and “my personal experience is lacking” didn’t you understand? I don’t know any Roma, I don’t hate any Roma, I have said that a couple of times, I even said “I don’t get it” referring the hate mentioned by the average Italians. I do however have distinct feelings regarding Muslims, and it isn’t love.

        • Justin

          Roma people are hated by Western Europeans because they are simply different and they don’t follow Western European etiquette Just as Jews are different and are hated for being different.

          • Blacksmith

            So because Western Europeans hate Roma, you decide I belonged to that group? By the way I don’t hate Jews either so you can relax.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            All groups, like all people, are ultimately responsible for their own plight and hatred against them is usually a large part of how those groups treat outsiders.

            Also, assuming that group-hated can only have one cause is not true. Do you think that European anti-Semitism has the same causes as Arab anti-Semitism?
            They don’t.
            They CAN’T.

      • Blacksmith

        Oh and I specifically mentioned muslims NOT Christians.

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      • Blacksmith

        Those were enlightening articles thanks.

        • christianblood

          Some Roma people may Betty criminals and pick pockets
          but Westerners love and adore muslim jihadists whose long term plan is destroy the West, start a real religious genocide against non-muslims in the West and eventually conquer it. I can’t understand it!