Trudeau advisor Gerald Butts’ “green” energy policies cost Ontario 300,000 jobs — admits liberal think tank

Political choices have real world consequences and Ontario residents are now seeing that play out as more jobs leave the province over sky high electrical rates.

Kathleen Wynne’s latest TriumphGM to cut 1,000 jobs at Oshawa plant

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    Unemployment is pretty damn green, when you think about it.
    It also helps fight “American style consumerism” too, so they got that.

    Somehow when an American buys a new iPad it’s much less cool, and perhaps even morally reprehensible, as opposed to when some Quebecer chick does it.

    • Nothing greener than a Rust Belt;)

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        All those green shoots of grass peaking through abandoned streteches of ashphalt is the epitome of Thoreauvian living.

        • Frau Katze

          Excellent point!

  • Liberals voters wanted this.

    Remind them always.

  • Billy Bob Thornton

    The fact is manufacturing was outsourced due to cheaper labour in third world countries that are now near developed. It simply was the fault of NAFTA and these trade agreements that allowed Western nations to want more and more service economy and less and less stable employment, as well as less pensions, less worker guarantees and less equality.

    Nowadays, it takes more and more debt to live in Western nations because services cost more, employees cost more and don’t forget that taxes have gone down and there is simply no investment. Corporations are sitting on trillions which they refuse to invest. If the Conservatives were smart, they should have tied those tax cuts to jobs actually being created. Obama I feel has lied about employment in the US and the same with Harper.

    Governments will do as they please and even lie to you to get re-elected. Remember they are in competition with other parties and as such will play the game. Who would’ve thought that!

  • Billy Bob Thornton

    Of course energy policies are a part of it just not the main part. Of course this is culture war nonsense. In the real world, there exists facts and the fact is China was admitted in the WTO and both parties agreed because nothing was changed from 1999 to now. Bush could’ve fixed it. Clinton could’ve reversed it. The same with Obama. Such people care about short-term rather than actually making things. Nowadays even China is too costly to have manufacturing products made there. Right now, Bangladesh, Vietnam and Indonesia are areas where products are starting to be made. This means that if we just focus on the service economy and a few oil jobs here and there that there will always be an underclass since that is part of globalized capitalism and people refuse to accept that fact. Remember the people vote to get full employment yet the governments refuse to change the system. Why bother even voting when the politicians do as they please! Which is why I constantly say politicians follow their own agendas and not what should be done which is a full employment policy.

  • tom_billesley

    300,000 ?
    The greenies will take them out to some rural reeducation camp to plant kale.

  • Billy Bob Thornton

    I call people that forget things that should be obvious as either selective amnesia or they simply forget because they have memory of a few years. The fact is 2008 allowed the jobs to leave fast because it was a Great Depression and I feel it is still with us. I say this because jobs didn’t just leave Canada, but also the United States and the EU. Governments have the power to create new industries by not being competitive but having protectionist policies. It really is a question of choices and we have put all of our eggs in the globalist basket and all parties agree with globalized capitalism because they are all for free trade, neoliberalism, low interest rates and a policy of austerity. If that isn’t identical, then you need to look closer at what the parties are proposing because back pre-Reagan the parties were actually different. This goes for all Western nations, and their mainstream parties. They all seem to be getting closer and closer and refuse to change but are doing the exact same things as each other, which is prompting people to pick new options to kick out the mainstream. Sadly for Canada we don’t have a vibrant democracy to give us newer choices since the mainstream parties are happy with keeping the power all to themselves. Yet, there is no complaining since the way North Americans are is they are happy to be trampled upon.

    • Clink9

      What to do ……

    • Minicapt

      … and there is no-one sufficiently cogent to warn us.


  • dance…dancetotheradio

    Manitoba and Quebec have roughly the same price for power.
    And it is half of Ontario’s power price.
    When I moved to Saskatchewan I got sticker shock the first time I opened my hydro, I mean power bill.
    They look at you funny when you say hydro.
    Oh, and Brad Wall was too chickenshit to build a nuclear power plant a few years ago.
    He got a huge windfall from the revenues created by the potash bubble and chose to do nothing with it.
    Saskatchewan has a lot of uranium.
    And if I ever get any money after my kids move out I’m going big time into uranium stocks.