Praying not a human rights violation

The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that municipal council meetings can’t begin with prayers.

Beginning in 2007, Saguenay, Que., council attendee Alain Simoneau complained to a human rights tribunal that the mayor’s praying violated his freedom of conscience and religion.

The tribunal sided with Simoneau, ordered the city to pay him $30,000 and for officials to stop saying the prayer.

The city appealed and won. The Court of Appeal found “the interference, if any, was trivial and insubstantial.”

But now the highest court in the land has swung the legal pendulum back to Simoneau.

  • Millie_Woods

    Does this mean we’re going to stop accommodating Muslim prayer demands in public places? Schools, universities, airports etc.

    • winniec

      They are demanding that pupils and students participate in Muslim prayer or ‘pretend to be Muslim’. Isn’t that more of a problem?
      Listening to a prayer asking God to help me make good decisions should not offend me…unless it calls for my death, for instance.

      Even ‘meditating’ about making wise decisions would be a possibility for that person…though the judges didn’t mention it. Are they nuts? Throughout Canadian history most of our politicians would agree that politicians (especially those of the opposing parties) needed a great deal of prayer. Most Canadians agree with that.

    • Hahahahahahahaha!

  • Uncle_Waspy

    I’m old enough to remember a time when whiny little shit-disturbers like Simoneau were either ignored or “corrected” in a physical manner.

    • DD_Austin

      Yup, Father Pedophile would fuck them up the arse in the “good olde days”
      and nobody would dare say nothing then either.

      The “compliant” is valid, if the mayor wants to pray let him do it on his own
      time, and his own dime, instead of holding up an entire council meeting
      of himself, the councilors, the recording secretary, the town clerk, for 10
      minutes, all while on the public payroll. Total cost per meeting for his 10 minute prayer, holding up 8-10 people, 80- 100 man hour minutes of paid time per meeting, assume 90 per meeting, 1080 minutes per year for 4 years 4320 minutes or 72 hours or 2 weeks work at municipal hours wasted because of this arsehole.

      Not to mention the waste of the 9 years of court action, because this
      municipal twat can’t resist practicing his religion on his job.

      • Be sure to ban the national anthem and Christmas. We wouldn’t want Father Christmas to f— up kids’ holidays, would we?

        • DD_Austin

          holidays and working hours are two different things

          And “christmas” pre dates christianity

          • I find it adorable that you believe that.

          • Minicapt

            Only when you are foolish and ignorant and innumerate and a Dipper.

            Cheers

      • Uncle_Waspy

        Father Pedophile? This is a very strange response.

        But nonetheless, you’ve convinced me that it’s morally correct for the government to throw gobs of money at every angry frustrated individual who feels they’ve been violated.

        • DD_Austin

          What part of wasting time paid for by taxpayers did you miss?

          • Minicapt

            What part of “wasting time” have you demonstrated? And from whom are you ‘borrowing’ these ‘thoughts’?

            Cheers

      • Alain

        I get it, you are glad the Supremes forced the religion of atheism on them. Talk about total intolerance this is right up there with the radical homosexual activists. I doubt the prayer lasted more than a minute, and no one was forced to pray if they did not wish to.

        • DD_Austin

          Right, it’s ok to waste time and money as long as “you” approve of the waste
          Cupe member right?

      • Minicapt

        Figures lie, liars figure, and bullshitters excrete. Congratulations on being consistent in your own wee way.

        Cheers

        • DD_Austin

          The math was too much for you i see
          so your following your mentors guide
          “Rules for Radicals”

          • Minicapt

            Making up numbers is not math, unless you’re an AGW aficionado. Either way, you are lying.

            Cheers

    • Bono

      Don’t forget the “Pepsi” guy vs. air canada.

  • winniec

    Merely LISTENING to a pray is a ‘violation’?
    No one commanded him to pray or insisted he participate. Why can the person not just leave the room? Are we raising a world of wimps who demand NEVER TO HEAR SOMETHING THEY DISLIKE.
    The Supreme Court of Canada is creating law based on HURT FEELINGS. That is a violation of free speech and the freedom to practice religion.
    Such proscriptions were never part of the intention of our Canadian constitution or its makers…even Trudeau who was devout in his own way.

    • Alain

      In answer to your question yes the cultural marxists have created a society where the worst of all things is hearing or seeing anything you do not like or do not agree with. Pathetic.

  • Bubba Brown

    “the interference, if any, was trivial and insubstantial”
    Sounds just like the SCOC alright. like the Senate, unelected, and in serious need of reform JMO

    • G

      -Term limits.

      – Realistic public vetting hearings where questions about judges previous public statements or decisions may be asked.

      – Elected judges
      .
      – Public disclosure of how SCOC judges vote on each case and public (expanatory hearings afterword). Hey pompous ass! if you are going to legislate from the bench you had better be willing to stand up in froont of a hearing AFTERWARD and explain why (answering questions – lots of questions as to why you voted that way.)

  • John

    This is akin to saying that ringing church bells is a violation of freedom of conscience and religion. If being expoed to the ‘sound’ of religion is a violation of religious freedom, then isn’t being exposed to the SIGHT of a religion ( a hijab or niqab) equally a violation?
    And one wonders how the Supremes can square this with Toronto schools not just reciting an islamic prayer, but turning the school cafeteria into a mosque on Friday. Shouldn’t that be a grevious violation of the freedom of conscience and religion of non-Muslim pupils?
    I guess not because in that case Christianity is not the religion in question.

  • eMan14

    These Human Right’s Tribunals are a colossal waste of time and money. The Tribunal agents are not accountable to the public in any way.

    The Supreme Court, in my mind, had no business in making this decision. Simoneau was not forced to pray. He didn’t have to follow any particular prayer. The decision was based on the assumption that the prayer was “coercion, pressure and judgment”? But isn’t that was the decision does to those that do pray? Forcing, pressuring, coercing people to not pray?

  • The Goat

    How long until they build a muslim prayer room adjacent to the chambers? 10, 9, 8, ….

    • Ed Ellison

      Yup, and they will rue the day when the mussies take over.
      Pray or lose your head.
      Makes a trivial and insubstantial Christian prayer before start of work seem, well, trivial and insubstantial.

  • simus1

    The typical leftist perverting of the real and valid concept of disallowing the creation of an official church and its affiliated government which are mutually beholden to each other. In much of Europe, shared power, especially that of taxing the entire population no matter what religion they professed, in support of the official church, was a given.

  • mobuyus

    I was fired from a job once because I wouldn’t take a knee and join my supervisor in prayer. Like their hands mitts or hooves peoples religions should be kept to themselves.

    • Sean

      I call BS.

    • Alain

      I have difficulty believing your story, but if true that still has nothing in commmon with this particular subject.

      • G

        Total lie.

        • G

          Mind you I expect you may have gotten on your knees at at the interview when you were hired. You got a job and so did your supervisor. ;D

          • mobuyus

            Unlike you asshole I don’t smoke cock.You are an exquisite defender of your faith..

          • Okay, guys, please don’t get abusive.

          • DD_Austin

            He speaks from experience

            And he did get the Altar boy “position” as well

      • mobuyus

        I am sorry you have difficulties. Forcing ones religion on others, however subtly is what this is all about.

        • DD_Austin

          Your talking to the pods
          even math won’t work

  • Bono

    Muslim prayer rooms in publically funded buildings (like universities) OFFEND me. So let the good times roll. Fair is fair.

  • Once more, militant atheists answer questions no one asked.