Turkish World Bulletin: Before Da Vinci, Wright brothers, it was Abbas ibn Firnas

A thousand years before the Wright brothers, astronomer Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine. In 852 he jumped from the minaret of the Grand Mosque in Cordoba using a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts.

The Islamic Museum of Australia has honoured his work a real life scale model of his flying machine.

The Islamic Museum of Australia have commissioned another community project called the Abbas ibn Firnas, the father of modern glider aviation. Based on the historical recollections of the famous 9th century Spanish inventor and scholar three Australian Muslim aerospace engineers banded togeheter to recreate a scale model of the famous flying contraption.


  • Drunk_by_Noon

    There were a bunch of blacks, a few years ago, that were claiming that it was Africans who originally discovered the secret of levitation but then the white man stole it and then LOST the technology.
    Obviously the Turks had it!

    There will be a price for this kind of false knowledge.
    There always is.

    • Frau Katze

      It’s an attempt to raise Muslim self-esteem…or something. Do they have, say, a Chinese one? I doubt it.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        I have posted this before and I still find it amusing.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          That was a new one for me.

          The “cargo cult” is strong with those guys!
          I admire their persistence in making the White Man’s magic do their bidding, but what they built was a “pretend helicopter” and yet they are mystified as to why it will not soar with the eagles.
          You really want to sit them down and just explain to them some basic aerospace science, but you know it would just crush their spirit and they’d likely just go back to chewing khat and firing AKs into the air.
          What to do?

          • G

            These guys work very hard at being stupid. They don’t just depend on natural ability.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            I do award them SERIOUS credit for effort, which is always most of the battle. Sadly, they are probibly illiterate and living in a crap society so that as far as they will go. I do feel more than a little bad for them.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I don’t know man.
            The Gods Must Be Crazy.

          • Dana Garcia

            They have pretty successful magic: they suck dark goo out of the ground and trade it for all their worldly desires, from airplanes to gold-plated Mercedes-Benzes.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            An argument that I make at work sometimes, because we have these extraneous conversations as a way of getting to know each other, is that the Romans could never have landed on the moon.
            And the reason I put forward is that Roman numerals lack the concept of zero as a number and they couldn’t have made the calculations in their math to tackle Newtonian Physics.

      • Dana Garcia

        Wait, what about Mohammed’s night journey — didn’t he have flying horse or something?


  • Gary

    Next we will heart that Obama was told by NASA that a Mosque was found on the Moon along with sandal prints .

    • Frau Katze

      You mean there is no mosque on the moon?

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        Giants steps are what you take.
        Muslims on the moon.
        I hope my legs don’t break.
        Muslims on the moon.

        • Frau Katze


  • Martin B

    No mention of how flimsy the historical record is regarding Abbas ibn Firnas and his “flying machine”:


    Eilmer the Flying Monk of Malmesbury has a much more substantial claim to being the first real-life “birdman” who lived to tell about it:


    • Frau Katze

      People have imagined flying for ages, think of the Greek myth of Icarus.

  • pop

    Let’s assume he was committing suicide.

    • “Wierdo allegedly dresses up as bird, jumps off building” doesn’t sound as good as “got there before Leonardo”, does it?

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        Sound more like, ‘It puts the lotion in the basket’.

  • Sharkibark

    4:40ish or so in the video: was the white weenie in the pretty dress totally left hanging on the muslima high five to the left? Just say’in.

  • This Joe Hockey slut is half Armenian, according to Wiki. Since when do Armenians have any affection for Islam?

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      I’ll have “things whores say” for $200 Alex!

  • Minicapt

    Have they determined whether Abbas ibn Furnas was of Iberian, Visigothic, or Jewish ancestry?


  • Exile1981

    I have the professional certification on my wall to say it is not going to fly. The shape is such is it will pitch nose down. Flying that would be a short trip, Kind of quick to stall.