No forgiveness for slavery, racism without making restitution, Baptist pastor says

Real repentance leading to racial reconciliation demands restitution for victims of oppression and injustice, Wendell Griffen told a Hardin-Simmons University audience March 23.

“The work of healing what has been wounded, righting what has been wronged and restoring what has been stolen or destroyed requires doing justice and the ethics of restitution, reparation, restoration and reconciliation,” said Griffen, pastor of New Millennium Church, a Cooperative Baptist Fellowship congregation in Little Rock, Ark.

“Until we do these things, we have not engaged in biblical repentance, no matter what else we may have accomplished”…


And what gives him the right to “forgive” something that was not done to him nor done by any person alive now. It’s tribal talk.  Besides, affirmative action is exactly that: restitution.

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  • Drunk_by_Noon

    What a petty small-minded individual.
    If I can forgive the Roman Republic for the sacking of Carthage in 149 B.C., surely he can forgive as well.

    Oh no, wait, that’s not what he means at all.
    He wants a bunch of living people, who were never slave-owners, to give money to a different bunch of people that were never slaves.
    That’s quite reasonable.

    • Frau Katze

      He’s just money-grubbing.

    • Gettingby

      You get to be either house or outside n…..s working for you new rich masters.

    • Exile1981

      Can I demand money for the job I was turned down for years ago because they told me they had to hire a black person to meet quotas? i mean at least that was in the last 20 years and involved people still living.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        Check your privilege, cracker!

    • Alain

      Especially since neither he, his parents and likely his grandparents were slaves. Funny how the slavery narrative obmits who captured them and sold them into slavery, which was not the Europeans nor Americans.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        Check your privilege, cracker!
        I think I’ll just keep saying that all through this thread.
        Maybe in ALL CAPS, just to let people know I’m emphatic and filled with righteous rage.

        • Blacksmith

          I wouldn’t do that DBN, we might compare you to Cher and everyone know she is a few bricks shy of a load.

      • Blacksmith

        STOP! If the facts don’t support the narrative they are irrelevant.

    • Blacksmith

      Racism is a revenue generating tool nothing more.

    • Clausewitz

      I’m thinking that the white people of the US have repaid that debt many times over with the blood that was spilled by white troops who fought to abolish slavery.

  • Gary

    Thank god someone is now demanding redress for the Ottoman Empire and 1400 years of oppression under islam .
    Too bad it took a Black man to finally stand up and not Whitey.

    let the riots begin .

  • Zaba

    Just as soon as the Time Machine is perfected, you can go back and collect…..

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      That made me laugh.
      Imagine sending all of America’s blacks back in time to 1859 to collect “slave reparations”.
      That might not work out so well for them.

      • ntt1

        No fergusons in Islamic countries because they were pretty good at castration.

      • Zaba

        You picked up those exact thought waves!

      • mobuyus

        Send the ones that want the reparations to their pre-slavery African utopia with that Time Machine.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          When would that be?
          10,000 B.C. – 20,000 B.C.?
          Also, that might not work out so well for the reparation recipients either.

  • Martin B

    No one needs this greedy thieving parasite to forgive their sins.

    Let him go to Ghana and demand restitution from the tribal chieftains whose ancestors sold his ancestors into slavery.

  • ntt1

    the muslims bought the ancestors of American blacks off other blacks as booty taken in intertribal warfare. the white slavers were indeed intermediary’s for a couple of centuries, Then slave sales were abolished in the western world, not so in muslim areas were it still goes on.
    So this idiot is going after the Tuoregs ? the Saudis the barbers ? reparations are hopelessly immoral, out off time and unjust.

  • DMB

    Oh goodie! Another illiterate, uneducated slavery obsessing white hating individual who doesn’t have his facts correct. Here is something he needs to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BfYGsdv-OQ&list=PLlH8sjy9cWscaRlt5nfcbISkVk-1t4FpT&index=5

  • Another piece of Martin Luther King’s legacy. The lazy bum in the picture should get a real job.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      I bet he has a very nice Cadillac.

      • Exile1981

        with gold rims?

        • Zaba

          and Leather…..

          • barryjr

            And fuzzy dice

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Spinners for Christ!
          WWJD? (What would Jesus drive?)
          I guess donkeys lack street-cred, and street cred seems to be what many black churches strive for these days.
          You know, ‘keepin’ Christianity real!’

        • ntt1

          spinners

      • mauser 98

        or a 65$million private jet

      • It’s a great racket and tax free. You may be familiar with Peter Popoff – a late night preacher who makes crippled or completely paralyzed people walk and dance by laying hands upon them. If you buy a small vial of his miraculous holy water, you’ll get a fat check from an unexpected source.

  • Exile1981

    I believe in restitution by those who caused the injury to those who suffered the injury.

    Now in this case since none of the slave holders are still living and the last slave Eliza Moore died in 1948 at an age of 105 years old. No one alive now was a slave or slave owner. So therefore no one should have to pay or receive reparations.

    Now if a bunch of these people think they demand reparations because their ancestors where removed from Africa by Muslim slave traders and sold to the US; well then they should either accept that those actions have been a benefit to them or they can except a special reparation. If they want reparations then we should provide them with a nominal amount of money and a one way ticket to africa (where based on genetic testing) and there US citizenship revoked.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      How much would you pay?
      I’d pay $250,000 per person, or ten years wages based upon their highest earnings year over their last decade of 1040 tax returns.
      Man, woman, and child.
      If your income was less than $25,000, or off the books, or too young or infirm to work, then you get the straight quarter million.

      Does anyone here think that is not generous enough?

      • Exile1981

        The us budget for welfare in 2015 is 375 billion but does not include medical coverage for welfare recipients which is under a different budget item and is another 443 billion. According to the census there are 38.9 million african americans in the US. Now even though blacks make up about 13% of the population they make up 39.8% of the welfare recipients. Approximately 20 million blacks are on welfare and another 1 million in prison.

        Lets assume that all the prisoners and welfare people took up the offer. That means that on the 20 million welfare recipients we are already spending 375B+443B = 818B; if 38.9% are black then we are spending 318 billion on 20 million people. That works out to about 16K per individual. So using your 250K figure the repayment term would be 15 years. So after 15 years the savings would have paid for itself.

        I’m also leaving out the 200+B in old age security the feds kick out per year for low income black seniors who also are getting welfare as well. So really the profit from that plan would be closer to 7-8 years ad considering the US deficit is about 500B per year (projected 2015) that would balance the budget after that 7-8 years.

  • Uncle_Waspy

    Will the descendants of Africans who went into the jungles to round up their own people be made to pay reparations as well?

    • tom_billesley

      From the foreign aid they receive?

  • What do Honkies get in return? So far, we have voted in a black man into the presidency and all we got in return has been more bitching.

    When black American parents teach their children to go to school with an attitude to succeed, just like Asian American parents, there will be no problems. As long as black “leaders” buy into the liberal BS of affirmative action and reparations, the black American community will have too many black parasites and not enough black brain surgeons.

    Success in school is the ultimate equalizer. And nobody cares what race you are.

  • mauser 98

    Why Black People Make Good Slaves

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlkCzuSUHJo

  • mauser 98

    Muslims The First to Enslave Blacks

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RrRd9XbzEk

  • markerc .

    This joker must be a kin to Jeremiah Wright…we “white folks” can’t be forgiven for something that was done hundreds of years ago…and who is to say any of my ancestors had a hand in it? Get a job, Pastor! Or take a one-way ticket back to Africa and cherish what you missed most of your life, suffering in North America!

  • It’s all about the cash and the cowing of the majority.

    When the United States (and Canada) is flooded with non-Caucasian populations, how do professional racialists expect to get paid?

  • barryjr

    Blacks in America should compensate ship owners for the free trip to the New World from Africa and an escape from tribal warfare.

  • bob e

    these people make me puke ..

  • Hard Little Machine

    No thanks you can keep your forgiveness.

  • Mickey Oberman

    Very good, Rev.

    Now let us go back to the 600 years of slavery of The Children of Israel in Egypt.
    Let us hear your views on that, please.

  • Ron MacDonald

    Blacks have been on the take in the United States for the past 150 years, they’re not owed a cent.