Israel says Turkish criticism inappropriate at Holocaust memorial service

Members of Turkey’s Jewish community gather at Etz Ahayim Synagogue to commemorate International Holocaust Remembrance Day in Istanbul January 27, 2013.  Just a guess here, but I suspect moving it to Ankara cut down on the numbers attending.

Israel accused Turkey’s parliamentary speaker Jan. 28 of “misusing” a Holocaust commemoration to criticize Israeli policy, the latest exchange in a bitter row between the former allies.

Turkish Parliamentary Speaker Cemil Çicek late on Jan. 27 addressed members of Turkey’s tiny Jewish community and others at a Holocaust Memorial Day event and said rising anti-Semitism was linked to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Commemorating the tragedies of the past, particularly the Holocaust, does not mean the killings of more than 2,000 children and women by Israeli security forces would be ignored, Turkey’s Parliamentary Speaker Cemil Çiçek said late Jan. 27 at the International Holocaust Remembrance Day held in the Turkish capital of Ankara for the first time.

“In these very days while we commemorate the pains of the past, nobody can ignore the massacring of more than 2,000 children and women during the last Gaza attack. Therefore, I want to express that we should seek a holistic settlement to the problem if we are to find a solution to the problem by looking at the greater picture,” Çiçek said.

Emmanuel Nahshon, spokesman at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, told Reuters that Çicek “unjustly and harshly criticized [Israel] at a moment that is absolutely inappropriate”…

Never miss an opportunity to criticize Israel — that’s Erdogan & Co’s #1 rule. His real interests are Islam, Islam and Islam.  The mere existence of non-Islamic states is an affront.

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  • Mickey Oberman

    “In these very days while we commemorate the pains of the past, nobody can ignore the massacring of more than 2,000 children and women during the last Gaza attack…..”

    Almost all of whom would still be alive if they were not used as human shields and if Hamas had provided proper shelters for its population and had not used schools, hospitals and homes as arms depots and firing platforms.

    • Surele Surele

      Isn’t this amazing? All population of Gaza consist of elderly women and children. Any men in this hellhole?

      • Mickey Oberman

        They are snug in their own bomb proof holes.

    • Remember- this is the same country that will not own up to its Armenian-killing past.

  • FactsWillOut

    Every day that Israel refuses to use her nukes or otherwise clean out that snake pit is a day I lose a bit more respect for her.

    • Censored_often

      If that happened, the retaliation against Israel would be extreme. As well, and of course I and all readers understand your frustration and rhetoric above, Israel would suffer immensely using nuclear weapons anywhere in the vicinity of the Middle East.

      Conventional weapons — I’m all for them! (“…or otherwise clean out that snake pit…”)

      • FactsWillOut

        Israel has nukes, so no-one can “retaliate”, and Israel has excellent engineers, so she can always find a trading partner.

        Airbursts make almost no fallout, and Israel could clear out Gaza with trains and trucks and conventional weapons, and save the nukes for any belligerent nations.

        Allowing Gaza to exist is pretty much the same as Canada importing millions of Muslims, or America leaving it’s southern border open, it is eventual suicide.

        • Censored_often

          The Muslim president of the USA current leader of the USA will not approve.

          • FactsWillOut

            My point is, if Israel uses conventional weapons to relocate the Gazans, she is capable of defending herself from any other aggressors quite easily. Historically, nuclear powers do not fight each other, they use proxies, and a limited ME exchange would not spell the end of the world.

            As long as America and Russia refrain from using their strategic deterrents, the world will be just fine.

            There is a big difference between strategic nukes and tactical nukes, as well.

            A 100 kiloton thermonuclear warhead is much, much cleaner than a regular fission bomb of the same yield.

            Militarily, Israel could annex everything from the Golan heights to the Sinai, and no-one could stop her. Stern words at the UN are meaningless.

          • Censored_often

            Fair enough. I have a feeling Netanyahu knows what’s going on, though. Obama, on that note, will be attending mosque soon enough in Chicago when his time in the White House is complete. PM Justin – the thought makes me frightened! – will engage in a series of interfaith meetings with the Taliban facilitated by Hussein Obama.

          • Justin St.Denis

            Maybe Justin will develop a cancer or something.nOne can always hope. And pray.

          • Mickey Oberman

            He should uh try acting uh after he takes uh speech lessons uh.

          • Justin St.Denis

            Neutron Bombs are real-estate friendly.

          • Mickey Oberman

            It is obvious you are not an Israeli under constant threat of annihilation for decades.
            If Israel goes the world as you know it will follow.

  • Kinneddar

    I just wrote an article on this incident. It’s an example of the “New Anti-Semitism.” Instead of focusing on the Jew as an individual or part of a small community, the new anti-Semitism is focused completely on Israel. It’s been evidenced by this Parliamentary Speaker, Cicek, and also by Erdogan and Davutoglu.

    “New Form of Anti-Semitism on Display in Turkey”
    https://suite.io/jen-l-jones/6m2m2jy

    • disqus_W6sfZCiOd8

      Turkey’s anti-Semitism was certainly alive and thriving during WWII:
      “As David Motadel writes in “Islam and Nazi Germany’s War,” Muslims fought on both sides in World War II. But only Nazis and Islamists had a political-spiritual romance. Both groups hated Jews, Bolsheviks and liberal
      democracy”
      http://www.wsj.com/articles/book-review-ataturk-in-the-nazi-imagination-by-stefan-ihrig-and-islam-and-nazi-germanys-war-by-david-motadel-1421441724

      • Kinneddar

        But during WWII the anti-Semites couldn’t demonize the state of Israel. With the creation of the Jewish state in 1948 a new target for their hatred emerged, and with the shame of the Holocaust gradually taking hold, it became more PC to criticize Israel, not the personal qualities of an individual Jew, or the “ambitions” of the Jewish people as a whole. Just think, even hatred must be PC!

        • Mickey Oberman

          And right here as you voice your anti Semitism.

          • Censored_often

            I just re-read Kinneddar’s comment above twice and cannot detect anti-Semitism. In fact, quite the opposite. Please explain, Mickey.

          • Kinneddar

            I haven’t a clue what you mean, Mickey.

          • disqus_W6sfZCiOd8

            I wasn’t sure what “anti-Semitism” Mickey saw in your (Kinneddar’s) comments either.

    • Billy Bob Thornton

      Well Israel did attack the floatilla and killed the people aboard it so Turkey has every right to be angry and should defend the rights of their citizens.

      International law applies to all nations and the fact is the Palestinians are suffering.

      Israel is a nation of Zionists not a nation of Jews. Jews are normally peaceful and I have many friends who are Jews.

      The truth is the problem in the world are these wars used to get resources and expand American influence. Those are the problems. The media never challenges this.

      Israel wants more wars all the time. Israel’s greatest fear is a strong Muslim nation and why Iraq happened and why they want Iran attacked and their regime changed. They also want the US to remain because they fear BRICS. This has more to do with economics and politics rather than religion or morality. And yet the US and Israel claim to be moral with the US launching 50+ wars since WW2.

      Wars happen because of expanding one’s interests rather than anything else.

      • Billy Bob Thornton

        Anti-semitism is just a way to silence people. The fact is Israel is losing in the court of public opinion and people are sick of tired of them.

        No wonder Harper had to go there.

        Israel is a pariah state for most people in the West.

        They are the ones that want war and want aggression and the fact is people can see right through them.

        Now they want war with Lebanon and Iran. It shows the true colours of the warmongering state of Israel. They can’t go 10 days let alone 10 months without war.

        • FactsWillOut

          One rocket fired from Gaza into Israel is enough reason to clean out the whole viper’s nest of misogynists.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            What about the expansion of settlements, the growth of territory. It will be interesting the Palestinians entering the ICC. It shows the true colours for which nations want true peace and which ones have disguised their intentions all along. A holy book does not make a nation. The fact is no one has claim to any land. Annexation is illegal by international law.

          • FactsWillOut

            Push the muslime into the sea!

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            See even talking to you based on your words shows that what you are saying is based on indoctrination which the government is counting on. Anything to keep you focused on their lies because the purpose of these wars is not victory but more police state measures, more personal liberties being lost. You think Muslims are not being scapegoated think again. Which is why no one will ever doubt media and government propaganda on this blog. It is just believed the moment it is spoken.

          • Justin St.Denis

            BillyBob, I suggest you actually visit the Middle East. Facts have a way of destroying dreams and killing unicorns.

          • Mickey Oberman

            Of course Muslims are being unjustly scapegoated.
            It is not Muslims that are committing over 90% of terrorism in the world.
            It is Islam isn’t it?

          • Justin St.Denis

            Wearing their traditional garb, too. Burkas are so floaty!

          • Mickey Oberman

            And so convenient for brave jihadis to use disguised as women. And to conceal weapons.
            And to hide the beautiful faces and figures of ululating harridans.

          • Justin St.Denis

            LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            So annexation being illegal is funny when it is stated explicitly?

          • minuteman

            When you invade another country and loose, you loose territory. Egypt invaded Israel, and lost Gaza, Syria invaded Irael and lost the Golan Heights, Jordan invaded Israel and lost the west bank. Why should Israel give it back? Egypt does not want Gaza back. Gaza isn’t occupied Palestinian territory, it is occupied Egypt.

          • Censored_often

            “…international law.” This guy is killing me! OMG! I need a stiff drink after reading this undergraduate leftist drivel. 🙂

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Ya I know because the laws are only for the other nations not the West.

          • Censored_often

            Ha ha ha ha ha. Go work for the muzzie United Nations. Ha ha ha ha ha. Thanks for the good laughs from your comments.

          • Justin St.Denis

            Absolutely. One rocket fired is an act of war.

        • Justin St.Denis

          BillyBob, please go crawl back under your rock.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Their ministers go on Fox News, SNN and on mainstream networks to peddle their bull. What more can be said. They claim to be threatened all the time. How many crying of wolves does this state think we will believe. People for peace will always choose peace over war. Israel is not moral at all.

          • Justin St.Denis

            LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Well remember the leadup to Iraq. They claimed Iraq was developing weapons, had connections to 9/11 and were a threat to their safety. Of course, people never forget.

          • Censored_often

            I above wrote “undergraduate”. I must now revise my opinion. He sounds more like an impressionable muzzie leftist grade 10 student suffering after too much sex education in the TDSB. LOL LOL LOL LOL!

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Muslims are good people yet you have proven that you only have one thing on your mind and it isn’t Islam but if you want war so much you should sign up and stop being a chicken hawk. It’s easy to sit behind a monitor and say these things.

          • Mickey Oberman

            Good people with a strong penchant for stoning people to death and for cutting off heads with a dull knife.

        • Mickey Oberman

          And here too..

      • FactsWillOut

        Israel is making overtures to the BRICS.
        The Palestinians left voluntarily under the assumption that Syria, Egypt and so on would have destroyed the nation in 1948. That didn’t happen. Time to push the muslim slime into the sea.

        • Billy Bob Thornton

          The whole reason for war now is for Netanyahu to display his strength during an election campaign and that happened in 2006, 2009, 2012 and now in 2015. That is the truth. People may not like it but Israel does it all the time to show strength and are not stupid enough to challenge Iran with Russia having a pact with them.

          Regarding the Palestinians, under the UN, Israel was supposed to compensate the Palestinians for lost land, people leaving, the right of return and so forth.

          Of course these items were never fulfilled and the Americans, British and all stakeholders simply ignored these facts.

          • Justin St.Denis

            ROFLMAO.

            BillyBob, you are such an – oh, forget it!

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            See a lot of the supporters losing the argument must resort to ad hominems and insults and that is proof that they have nothing further to add. Israel’s main priority under Netanyahu is to just bide their time before their attack on Iran. The attacks are soon and people can sense it. Israel is just paranoid about the fact that there is another nation that can rival them.

          • Alain

            When one makes it up as he goes along instead of referring to documented evidence, there is no argument to be made. You are embarrassing yourself and not winning converts to your make-belief version of events. It smacks of Jew hatred.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            It’s not Jew hatred. It has to do with understanding how Israel has behaved like in the past. The UN speech with Netanyahu smacks of how Israel feels and how they will act in the future. He mentioned Iran and Lebanon this week. I think the attack could be this year.

          • Mickey Oberman

            BBT is really good at reversing reality.

          • Censored_often

            I need a triple Scotch, whereas at the top of this comment string only required a single Glenlivet.

          • Mickey Oberman

            Ditto.

            Some folks brains are fossilized.

        • Justin St.Denis

          So true.

      • disqus_W6sfZCiOd8

        Israel wants more wars all the time
        Let’s have some links to support this statement.

      • Justin St.Denis

        There is no such thing as “Palestianians”. The “Palestinians” are an Arabic invention that date to the mid-1960s. Oddly, from 1948 when Israel came to be right through to the mid-1960s, not a single mention of “Palestinians” was made.

        The only genuine Palestinians are the Jews of Israel.

        • Billy Bob Thornton

          The only Jews from that region are the Palestinians. The Jews living in Israel are from Khazaria. They are converts in 800 AD. There is no biblical title to land and annexation is illegal when it comes to international law.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            The biblical Jews converted to Islam.

          • Justin St.Denis

            LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

          • Norman_In_New_York

            BCF, send in the troll patrol.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            It’s not a troll statement; check maps from 800 AD and the nation of Khazaria. They converted to Judaism to be different from any other nation. The biblical Jews converted in the ME to Islam.

          • Norman_In_New_York

            I know a troll when I read his screed, and you’re so full of antisemitic shit that if you were given an enema, you could fit inside a shoebox.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Which is why so many current Israelis are so aggressive like the settlers. They are descendants of those Khazars.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            You want me banned don’t you Norman? The BDS movement is having an impact and clearly Israel is scrambling and they cannot do anything about it. That is why they are so irrational and trying to do speaking tours and try to build their profile.

          • Norman_In_New_York

            Lying again. The BDS people, just like you, are like flies. They eat shit and bother people.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Well freedom of speech only applies when you agree with everything the government says and clearly the federal government in Canada hates people critical of foreign policy favouring war and militarization. Also, I don’t lie. I am sick and tired of the Israel firsters. If they are so aligned with another nation perhaps they should move to Israel and leave Canada to people wanting all Canadians to succeed and us having a foreign policy of non-interventionism and no war. Which is why the notion of us having freedom of speech are just lies. Right wingers only want certain speech not universal speech. Bashing Israel is considered beyond the realm of free speech.

          • Minicapt

            `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
            Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
            All mimsy were the borogoves,
            And the mome raths outgrabe.

            Cheers

          • Norman_In_New_York

            You sure do lie. Your talking points are straight out of Der Stuermer. When in doubt, blame the Jews. The bottom line here is that not only won’t you convert anybody to your antisemitism, you won’t even gain an iota of respect from us. I’ve got better things to do than waste any further time with a racist troll.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            It seems many on here want a clash of civilizations. That is evident. No one will state that fact.

            Again with the antisemitism. That card has lost its shock value a long time ago.

            No I don’t hate. I am trying to prevent WW3 which the West wants to have with Russia, China and Iran and BRICS. I am trying to convince people war is not the answer.

          • Norman_In_New_York

            You sure have an odd way of showing your non-hate. I’m not trying to shock you by pointing out your antisemitism, I’m only telling the truth. Don’t like it? Tough. And you will convince no one here. If that hasn’t shown itself obvious to you by now, then you need psychiatric help.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Israel is central to the US imperialist agendas since 2001. It isn’t a shock. In fact, Israel and US are locked together. Being against Israel is not anti-semitism. It is just looking for Nazis and the fact is collectivizing was deemed never allowed again after the Nuremburg Trials. Seeing the people on here, collectivizing Muslims seems quite apparent. In fact, I have seen the comments and they are quite disturbing.

          • Norman_In_New_York

            Then go find a more congenial website like Electronic Intifada. You won’t convince anybody here, especially with your foul antisemitism, and if you are disturbed, then by all means leave.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            See your main default point is going back to your attacks on Islam and Muslims because that is what this site is about. It is about the demonizing and collectivizing of Muslims and wanting more wars against them. You could say a rapture war. I am not Muslim but I am against imperialism of any form. Nice try Norman. And these wars are globalist.

          • Norman_In_New_York

            As a Jew, I can feel the antisemitic hate you radiate all the way to New York. You are not going to win anybody over and I have no respect for you as a human being. BCF, send in the troll patrol.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I can sum up that comment as noise because sensing how someone is. Just like being able to hear God. Don’t make me laugh.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Be serious Norman. I like Jews. I like Finkelstein and Chomsky. They are proven anti-imperialists.

          • Censored_often

            “…US imperialist agenda”… hmm… communist? North Korean? product of a TDSB “education” polished off by some hard time at York or Concordia?

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Nope a nationalist and an anti-imperialist and anti-globalist.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Check up some ideologies Censored you might want to research something other than left, right and centre. Try the wikipedia sections on nationalism. You know the areas that don’t centre in the usual right wing talking point areas. You know like the BNP party of Britain.

          • Censored_often

            If you have ever purchased something not locally grown and harvested, or manufactured elsewhere, you’re caving in big time to globalism. I suppose you must be the only contributor to BCF who has never purchased anything manufactured in China, right? LOL LOL LOL I’ve read a lot of leftist bullshit in my day, but you take the communist cake. Thanks for the entertainment.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I buy local. I try to be local as much as I can. I volunteer. I work. The only way to have full employment is either communism, state capitalism or democratic socialism. I have read about those economic systems extensively but that is the only way. Canada can impose tariffs, use the military only for self-defense and become a nation where the young are given training like Switzerland for future employment after high school. Ideas can be taken from other jurisdictions but not everything is set in stone. This isn’t communism but understanding the directions that the world could be going in. I am way above the average person you have ever come across. Nice try, Censored, but I do my homework.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            You have no idea about anything except perceptions.

          • Censored_often

            Are you replying to yourself or continuing your above drivel?

          • David

            Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch
            newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization
            executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:

            The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
            Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state
            of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between
            Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical
            reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since
            Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct
            “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

            For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
            with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a
            Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem.
            However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait
            even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            But then by your answer you can honestly say that there was never an intention but just a biding of time.

            That is the honest truth.

            The reason I say this is because some like to also claim that the Palestinians had Oslo, Camp David but Israel in the end has the say whether or not the borders get defined and the Palestinians are controlled by Israel.

            Therefore, they make the rules!

          • David

            that makes no sense

            Your Jew hatred will get you no traction here.
            There are many other blogs that will happily agree with you that the state of Israel has no right to exist and Jews should be exterminated.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I said the negotiations are complete lies. Stop lying about me being an anti-Semite.

            The negotiations were never meant to achieve peace but completely take all the land of the Palestinians.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            To me it’s just a lie, a shell game, a way to fool the weak-minded.

            There is nothing moral about Israel.

          • Censored_often

            BDS? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!! You’re killing me. I predict a Concordia leftist disaffected with his United Church upbringing. Undergraduate who wants to work for the muzzie UN one day as a diplomat…?

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I can tell by your comments that you are focused on the whole university aspect/college aspect. Your guesses are as predictable as your ideology. I am anti-mainstream and hopefully a party does appear in Canada for nationalists that want monetary freedom and anti-imperialism and nationalism. The ways of the mainstream left, right and centre hopefully will be over. Greece started the path.

          • Censored_often

            You’re suggesting one of the biggest losers in western history, namely Greece? This country was so profoundly corrupt and decadent that no even the EU wants to bail them out! Geezuz!

          • Censored_often

            What is my “ideology”, oh non-left, non-right, wizard?

          • Minicapt

            Did a Djinn tell you that, or did you think it was the Archangel Gabriel? Or did someone at the local mosque read one of their special books to you, and show you pictures?

            Cheers

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I am not Muslim but what I do believe is that Muslims are being scapegoated because there are resources in the Middle East and the US and the West want the ME to be subdivided into hundreds of nations so as to divide the Muslims and get those resources. Muslims I have known are peaceful and yet the US thinks that we will believe the lies all the time. The fact is the US economy is not good at all and the US has to have sanctions against Russia and Iran and I think in the future China and the future is already decided. WW3 is most likely going to occur. Making connections is part of being smart. That separates the smart from the easily led.

          • Minicapt

            You are giving idiocy a bad reputation. And ‘making connections’ requires understanding how distinctions are to be made, something which you have never demonstrated. And your statements indicate that you are happily led by those of substandard intellect and deficient understanding; perhaps you are, at present, vacillating between joining the Grits or pledging yourself to the Dippers.

            Cheers

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            I proved why there will be WW3. Sanctions are a prelude to war. Muslims are being scapegoated because of their resources. The media never asks the tough questions about who these organizations are. They just expect us to believe them. Well I am not mainstream and I don’t care to be mainstream. The pundits entertain us but where is the substance.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            SNN and the mainstream media expect obedience and not substance or asking the tough questions.

          • Minicapt

            Unfortunately, you will be unable to find that “substance” as you drift about in your puddle of dreams.

            Cheers

          • Censored_often

            Maps manufactured in “Palestine”? LOL LOL LOL!

          • Censored_often

            Khazaria? LOL LOL LOL! You’re too much… still deciding if you’re a precocious muzzie grade 10 student or an idiotic undergrad at York or Concordia.

          • David

            Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch
            newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization
            executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:

            The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
            Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state
            of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between
            Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical
            reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since
            Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct
            “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

            For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
            with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a
            Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem.
            However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait
            even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

          • Mickey Oberman

            Recent genetic testing has proven you wrong.
            But then you are a professional at ‘wrong’.

      • Mickey Oberman

        And here.

    • Mickey Oberman

      Your theory is incorrect. You are so off base that you are out of the ballpark.
      What do you call what is happening to Jews in France, Belgium, Holland, UK, Germany, Sweden, the entire EU et al?

      • Kinneddar

        The theory about the new form of anti-Semitism isn’t mine. Google it. It’s supported by the work of many intellectuals and prominent Jews: Alan Dershowitz, Natan Scharansky, and Bernard Lewis come to mind. What’s happening to the Jews in Europe is anti-Semitism. I never said it wasn’t.

  • simus1

    When it came to practicing genocide against their religious/ethnic minorities, the turks were not only way out in front, they patented the “Who me? I don’t know what you are talking about.” party line.
    Any Jew who remains in turkey at this time really needs a mental checkup.

  • Justin St.Denis

    I wonder what a muslim country would smell like when it is being cooked.

  • disqus_W6sfZCiOd8

    I’m no psychologist/psychiatrist nor do I work anywhere in mental health.

    Nevertheless BCF this might be interesting:
    Internet trolls are narcissists-psychopaths-sadists
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

  • Mickey Oberman

    Turkey is itself inappropriate.

    It is a modern state in a retrograde state regressing back to a state of savagery.

    • simus1

      The turkish agenda is ottoman expansionist-hitlerian.