Bet there’s an App for that: Men must prove a woman said ‘Yes’ under tough new rape rules

Men accused of date rape will need to convince police that a woman consented to sex as part of a major change in the way sex offences are investigated.

The Director of Public Prosecutions said it was time for the legal system to move beyond the concept of “no means no” to recognise situations where women may have been unable to give consent.

Alison Saunders said rape victims should no longer be “blamed” by society if they are too drunk to consent to sex, or if they simply freeze and say nothing because they are terrified of their attacker.

Instead, police and prosecutors must now put a greater onus on rape suspects to demonstrate how the complainant had consented “with full capacity and freedom to do so”.


I suggest something along the lines of an Auto-Tweeter with GPS.

  • Clausewitz

    The Progressive Utopia looks like it’s going to be a loveless, lonely, paranoid place to me.

    • There is a Sharia like puritanism among the left.

    • winniec

      A new need for miniature cameras. The potential of litigation and blackmail becomes infinite.

  • Men should get in the habit of asking before the date.

    No reason to waist time or risk jail.

    • Justin St.Denis

      My wife instructed our sons to record their girlfriends agreement to have sex either on camera or via telephone. She emphasized that it did not matter how GRAPHIC a form the agreement took. As a result, I have heard several recordings of young women saying things like “Bill (not my son’s name), please f^ck my brains out.” Or “Bill, screw me blind!” I am being dead-serious here. Because girls who want to have sex with a clean, well-behaved young males must also be willing to do their part.

      Best advice for sons – stay away from American, Cdn., British and Swedish girls at all costs until sanity returns to the female segment of those populations. With the rest, be careful, a gentleman, and cover your ass.

      • Raymond Hietapakka

        Is there an APP for that?

        • Justin St.Denis

          There wasn’t at the time, but there should be today! Betcha there’s a “consent to sex” app developed within three months from now. You are funny! I hadn’t thought of that!

      • Uncle_Waspy

        Sad to say, even the extreme precautions you mentioned are no guarantee against rape charges… that a young woman can retroactively deny consent.

        Sound crazy? You bet! But there’s no concept that’s too crazy for progressives to enshrine into law. This thing (“Yes Means Yes” policy) is already being adopted by college campuses in the States, and it’s a short hop from there to the mainstream.

        • Exile1981

          The new law in California allows a women to change her mind about consent after the fact; add in that some feminists are pushing the idea that any form of sex between a man and women is automatically rape because of the nature of men and you have a situation where there is going to be a “explosion” of rape charges which will of course be used to justify having taken these sorts of actions.

      • And if they are studying feminist studies or any of the other related victimology crap – make sure the recording is backed up.

        • Justin St.Denis

          Spot on. BTW, my sons kept their cassettes. 😉

  • Maggat

    When I was a young fellow all one needed was a condom in ones wallet now we will need consent forms, in triplicate.

  • Barrington Minge

    So, the concept of “Innocent until proven guilty” no longer applies? Rape is always the man’s fault? Women never initiate sex?
    What is going on?

    • Justin St.Denis

      Dishonesty and hypocrisy have been adopted as middle names by entire generations.

    • moraywatson

      Women initiate sex.
      Men initiate rape.
      Gender is fluid.
      Good luck.

  • Tom Forsythe

    This may sound a bit harsh, but how about not having sex with women you don’t know well enough to trust them not to charge you with rape?

    • Or a man you can’t trust not to slip the condom off when you’re not paying attention (a la Lena Dunham’s fictional[?] Republican[?] Rapist[?])

    • Justin St.Denis

      If only the female sex was capable of that hi Seth and fealty.

    • AmicusC

      there are no such women.

  • ed

    just go to a massage parlour and don`t forget your receipt !

  • “…move beyond the concept of “no means no”…” So yes means no?

    • Uncle_Waspy

      You’re right, Mamba. This disturbing legislation views women as helpless idiotic children.

      If a woman does 17 tequila shots at the bar with her girlfriends, and then gets in her car and proceeds to cause a fatal car accident….can she deny legal responsibility because “she was too drunk to know what she was doing”?

      But change drunk driving to sexual consent and suddenly the responsibility goes out the window.

      • moraywatson

        It takes two to tango. It only takes one to drive a car.

    • Exile1981

      I subscribe to the Hesperian email list – they are a group that has put out free a lot of good health manuals for people doing missions in very poor countries to help those people solve their medical problems as cost effectively as possible. They have a new manual coming out and this one dips into the ubber far left mantra of men are powerful and rapists and women are always weak and victims.

      Below is an excerpt from their press release about ht new manual called “Health Actions for Women”. it seems to be from the excerpt about blaiming men for all societies ills. And look at the very end and see who endorses the manual. Lets just say this is one I will not be buying for our church.

      When Paul Kivel tells the story of the Oakland Men’s project, he always credits their inspiration to women’s efforts to raise awareness about rape and domestic violence. Paul describes techniques they adapted from women’s groups:
      First, we created a ‘picture and lecture’ show using images from sex magazines, record covers, magazine ads, and comic books. Most of the images showed women being humiliated, beaten, or raped. We wanted men to feel shocked and angry at how violent the images were.
      Some men were shocked, others were not. The show rarely led men to take any action to end violence. And it did nothing to help men understand how the system of male violence worked or how it might affect them personally.

      We also experienced anger from men as we spoke out. Some men felt unfairly blamed. We told men they were powerful and privileged, and that such violence was their responsibility. The men we talked with told us that, in fact, they felt angry, hurt, vulnerable, and powerless.

      Then we held workshops with boys aged 13 and 14 to help them see that men were strong and powerful in the world and women were not. The young men said they were trying to be powerful but weren’t. We finally had to admit that young men are not powerful in our society. They are often victims and survivors of family, community, and institutional violence. We came to see that both boys and girls suffer from violence mostly at the hands of male adults. Boys are often taught to pass on the violence to others. Girls are expected to become victims of men’s violence for the rest of their lives. We learned that men can change when we understand how we have been raised to be masculine and the pain we suffered in that process, and yet find ways to take responsibility for any violence we commit. This means understanding the connection between individual responsibility and how we as men have been influenced by expectations about masculinity.

      Paul’s story is just one of many from Hesperian’s new title, Health Actions for Women, that will be released on February 1st (pre-order before 2/1 for a 20% discount). This brand new book is chock full of stories, activities,
      discussion starters, and examples from all over the world that provide practical strategies to mobilize for change — for healthier women and girls, and healthier, safer communities.

      Anyone who has ever worked, organized, taught, or even thought about women’s health and equality will find a wealth of accessible, actionable tools in Health Actions for Women. Whether you live and work in the US or overseas, this resource is a “must have” for your outreach and training efforts. Pre order today!

      “No other resource today provides such concrete tools to engage communities and empower women of all ages to build lasting change from the ground up. A triumph!” -Cecile Richards, President, Planned Parenthood Federation of America

  • simus1

    (Computer style very masculine voice)
    “Honey, you have pressed button four. Pleased be advised that your “Doing the wild thing” session with your hunky, handsome, friend is being recorded for quality control purposes and is legally admissible by any participant in a court of law.

    Have fun!!”

  • Ottawa Eyes
  • Hard Little Machine

    There was a movie like this a few years ago. A man falsely convicted of a sex crime then recorded every single second of his life, audio and visual, around the clock.

  • Hard Little Machine

    BTW I wonder with the increasing acceptance of same sex relationships how they will navigate that minefield? Will you have to jump through the same hoops for your gay lover? What if you’re a pre op male to female tranny? You still have a penis. Then what? Can woman even force herself sexually on another woman without consent? What’s the definition of rape at that point? After all, there are TONS of women in college who are LUGs (Lesbians Until Graduation). Do you have to bring a doctor’s note ‘proving’ you’re gay?

  • FactsWillOut

    Maybe they can put it in the Waze app. The cops are trying to shut that one down, as it interferes with their revenue stream and makes the roads safer.

  • AmicusC

    Always be recording gentlemen. no sexual encounter kissing touching or anything else should be done without audio and video recording.

  • Raymond Hietapakka

    …maybe a male chastity belt with the lock’s combination tattoo’d on our backs where we can’t see it…or a NFC/Bluetooth App that only a female’s VISA card or iPhone can unlock…

  • Exile1981

    So under the new law you have to prove your not-guilty rather than the prosecution proving you are guilty. Ok got it, liberals believe in guilty until proven innocent, that will be a good starting point when they find themselves before a citizens tribunal for their acts of treason.

    It’s gotten to the point where a college kid needs to bring a notary along to ensure he has a signed consent form and it’s witnessed and there is a breathalyzer sample and psyc evaluation attached to prove she was sober and in her right mind when she consented.