Ont. court to hear ‘driving while black’ appeal; man blames gun conviction on racial profiling

TORONTO — Ontario’s highest court will hear an appeal today from a man who argues his gun offence conviction is a result of racial profiling.

Richard Steele’s lawyers say in a factum filed with the court that Steele’s trial judge erred in failing to properly consider evidence of racial profiling in finding him guilty…

…An Ontario Superior Court justice convicted Steele in 2010 of concealing a loaded handgun under the front passenger seat of his mother’s car after being pulled over in Hamilton. There were four black men in the car and Steele alleges he’s a victim of driving while black…

h/t Marvin

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  • Xavier

    Blacks need to go on the offensive, like the Moslems. Make cheap .38s, lean, and 6 baby mamas part of their religion.

  • simus1

    Driving while black and armed, drug dealing while black and armed, committing armed robbery while black and armed. Canada is a terrible racist place.

  • mobuyus

    His crime wasn’t “driving while black”no such crime on the books.His crime was being in possession of a loaded and concealed hand-gun jammed under the front seat.

    • winniec

      How many more illegal handguns are out there?

      • FactsWillOut

        How many brown-shirt thugs are out there, doing warrantless searches and gun-grabs?

      • Linda1000

        Obviously blanket insane gun control doesn’t work very v well does it. Seems to me it just aids the criminals and makes law abiding citizens defenseless.

    • FactsWillOut

      The cop had no authority to search the vehicle.

      • mobuyus

        No authority maybe,every right to certainly.You love armed criminals driving their moms cars at night looking for criminal opportunity.I hope they find you.

        • FactsWillOut

          Spoken like a true leftist totalitarian.
          Well done.

          • mobuyus

            Have you inducted me into the left without my consent.Alright I finally get to make it with liberal and socialist Babes yahoo!

        • Gary

          They will, and oh how the Karma and irony will ooze from his murder as a Judge rules that the gun used to kill HIM was not attained legally from the Police stop where the cop found the gun under the seat.
          The wealthy white lawyers live in a false-reality where they drive from their well-policed safe Rich area to their safe high security Office tower. Just wait until they have a relative killed by a punk with a gun and the same case happens for a Cop finding the killers gun in a car they pull over.

          • FactsWillOut

            Yep.
            Rely on the cops to save you.
            I guess all you clowns got 911 on speed-dial.
            Hope it works out for ya.

          • mobuyus

            I’ve got a clown regulator I don’t need saving.You can rely on the mike browns to protect you and yoursDon’t cross my path when I’m regulating clowns.

      • Gary

        And if a Cop found some Photos of Tory Stafford tied up prior to her being killed, you would feel the same that the evidence to convict the killer should not be used in the trial??? What if it was a photo of your Mother that was kidnapped or the gun that killed you daughter??
        I just want to hear you be consistent because far too often people like you claim to be for Human Rights and the rule of Law , that’s until it affects you .
        So what’s your stance , should the photos and gun that killed your daughter not be allowed as evidence????

        • FactsWillOut

          Ah yes, evidence at a trial is equal to some guy with a gun, or a knife, or an assault spork.

          • Censored_often

            Ah, the spork. One of the greatest inventions known to humanity!

          • FactsWillOut

            As long as it’s not the dreaded assault spork!

          • Censored_often

            Assault sporks are deadly, but what about this treachery?

          • FactsWillOut

            ???

          • Gary

            Nice to see you avoided telling us how you would feel if the gun had killed your daughter .
            Typical liberal progressive .

          • FactsWillOut

            I would have shot him myself with my gun before he had the chance.

            Your argument is like saying “ban matches, how would you feel if someone burned your house down.?”

          • FactsWillOut

            Oh, and after I shot the home invader, you would no doubt approve of the murder rap and “improper storage” charges against me, you sicko.

          • Linda1000

            The bad guns are already on the street in even greater numbers these days. I want to be at least able to shoot back with my own handgun. In the U.S. states with higher populations where there is legal CC or open carry crime statistics are lower than in less populated areas, including less populated areas of northern Canada. Gun control sure doesn’t help much in Chicago does it?

      • Exile1981

        Actually I’m not sure it was an illegal search. The driver was unable to find the vehicles insurance or registration and told the officer he couldn’t find them in the glove box and that maybe it had fallen out on the floor. The officer offered to help him look for it in all the trash on the floor and while helping to look for it the officer found the handgun.

        All the people in the car had prior convictions and the vehicle was driving without lights in a rural neighborhood where there had been a rash of break ins.

        I think the cop had the right to pull it over because of the lights, time of night and location. Checking the drivers license would have brought up the priors which with the crime problems would be a red flag.

        Lack of insurance and registration would be a concern and then he offered to have the cop help look for the missing docs is a form of permission to search. He should have said give me a minute to find it and the cop would have had no grounds to search, but he didn’t.

        • FactsWillOut

          Even then, possession of a handgun should not be a crime.

          • Exile1981

            That is the area we will have to disagree on. I think everyone should be allowed to own one, except people with prior criminal histories. Under current laws he would not be allowed to own any guns (and none of his passengers would be allowed either) because of their history of criminal convictions. Mostly assault and robbery ones according to an article i read.

            So even if you allowed everyone except criminals to own a hand gun these young men would have still been committing a crime.

          • Xavier

            I’m very much in favor of gun rights but “should not be a crime” is not a valid argument. Only the legislature should be able to make that decision.

          • mobuyus

            In the hands of a criminal it is a crime.

        • ntt1

          All the cop neeeds is probable cause to pull some one over, this is thought to be the reason cops oppose correcting speed limits if everybody is speeding everybody can have their plates run and be pulled over.

  • jayme

    There have been cases in Ottawa where blacks got off not because they did not do the crimes they did commit the crimes it because they were black.

    • Gary

      We have a new bigotry of Lowered Expectations for non-whites which is all party of the new Liberal Progressive that refused to condemn islamic terrorism , Black gangs and guns in Government housing, DVD pirate copies sold in Asian malls , and misogyny and homophobia within islam and by muslim males when the Imams blame rape victims for causing it and they cite the quran to condone murdering gays.

      John Tory will NOT condemn the muslims that were sharia inspired and defending muhammad that murdered 17 people in France , he won’t . He is a ex-ceo and knows how to speak for 5 minute and say nothing.
      Tory will claim that he defends free-speech and the Media , then he will add the BUT to qualify it and tell us that 99.99% of the muslims are peaceful hard working people that take their kids to hockey practice and pay taxes , he will insist the Jihadists praising allah and ISIS have noting to do with islam or allah .

      More of the Obama BS from the useful idiots that are going to get 1000’s killed on the TTC because the TTC will now install WiFi in the subway which make Remote Bombs easier since Omar Khadr knows how to wire the bomb to a phone for the detonator to go off when he calls the number.
      The islamist now use the word Racist to silence people telling the truth about muhammad and islam, this thanks to Barbara Hall giving the death-cult sect of islam the status equal to a religion in the Charter.
      Muslim are now a Race of people in canada.

      • FactsWillOut

        I guess we should just disable WiFi and cell service throughout all urban centres, for the good of the people.

        I guess you support Obama’s anti 2A stance, from your other comments.

        Actually, let’s just lock everyone in padded cells and ship them to and from the labor camps.

  • winniec

    There are still more black millionaires in the United States than millionaires of all races in most countries of the world.

  • FactsWillOut

    Having a gun under the seat should not be illegal.

    • simus1

      Any criminal with prior convictions out on bail or parole In possession of an undeclared, unregistered, hand gun when stopped by police anywhere for any or no reason outside his dwelling place should be a minimum 10 years in prison. His “unarmed friends” along for the ride with similar rap sheets, 5 years.

      • FactsWillOut

        One should not need to register and declare handguns.
        One should be able to buy them at the hardware store like a shovel or a chainsaw.

        • simus1

          If the buyer does not have a criminal record, hand guns for recreational/home protection use should closely follow the requirements for buying and operating a car.

          • FactsWillOut

            I disagree.
            The state should just butt out.

          • Linda1000

            Another reason why we need legal licensed, qualified concealed carry with proper picture I.D. The “bad guns” are on the street regardless so obviously gun control doesn’t work but let’s make the criminals think twice before they try to use their illegal weapons. Anyone caught with an unlicensed gun, should get 10 years minimum per gun in jail. The only exception should be for little old ladies over 75 packing heat.

          • FactsWillOut

            I guess that’s why Vermont is the murder capital of the world, what with no permit at all needed to carry a gun…
            no wait….

          • Gettingby

            “The only exception should be for little old ladies over 75 packing heat.” don’t ya just love the we are all equal BS

          • Linda1000

            I figure not that many grannies would be able to hold and fire a gun. 🙂 Little old grandpa’s shotgun might be a different story. Seriously, I believe citizens should have a right to own guns and we need some version of the U.S. Second Amendment in Canada. I don’t know what the best way would be to legislate this, but the restrictive laws in regards to carrying, storage and transport of arms Canada has in place right now don’t make any sense. Why own a gun if laws make it illegal to use it for protection.

          • Gettingby

            When I was seventeen I hitchhiked from Sarnia to Toronto. It was late fall. Around 10pm the lack of traffic, the cold, and the mosquitos prompted me to wander a couple of hundred yards into the bush and light a small campfire. Hours later two officers with guns drawn approached and asked what I was doing. They eventually issued a 55 dollar ticket for hitchhiking.
            I, being young and stupid decided not to pay that ticket as I was not in fact not hitchhiking at the time. Five years later, during a traffic stop where I was a passenger, I was arrested because a warrant had been issued by the jurisdiction issuing the ticket. The Judge demanded that I pay 110 dollars on the spot or spend three days in jail. Being broke and alone in the world I chose jail. I am a criminal. Any man on this earth that says “you are a criminal and I am not, so you have no right to arm and defend yourself like I can, can frankly go to hell…

        • jayme

          No there needs to be laws.

    • ntt1

      yes it should .

      • FactsWillOut

        No, it shouldn’t.
        In Vermont, you don’t even need a permit to carry.

        • ntt1

          you are not in vermont.

          • FactsWillOut

            Agreed.
            We’re closer to the USSR or 30’s Germany.

          • ntt1

            we are not there either

          • jayme

            No were not.

          • Linda1000

            Canada’s gun control laws suck and don’t deter any criminals. Same with the libtard gun registry they want to bring back that wasted billions.

          • ntt1

            Simplify gun ownership but impose mandatory ownership bans on those with psychiatric conditions or criminal convictions. then remove the daffy judges sentencing weaknesses with mandatory 5 or 10 year sentences when guns are misused.including threatening or replica use.

          • Linda1000

            Reform or remove the judges – that will take some doing.

          • ntt1

            bring in manditory gun crime sentencing to neutralize judicial activism

    • Gary

      It’s a must near Jane and Finch.

  • FactsWillOut

    What’s with all the 2nd amendment haters here today?

    • ntt1

      This Canada we do not have a 2nd amendment.

  • David Murrell

    Betcha the black hood gets off on the rap. The Ontario Supreme Court is very liberal, and likes armed thugs.