Vatican denies reports of attack warnings and issues – useless – plea against ‘religious violence’

The Vatican denied press reports on Monday that it had received specific warnings from Israeli and U.S. intelligence services that it was a probable next target of an Islamist attack.

La Repubblica, Corriere della Sera and other Italian papers reported on Monday that the CIA and Mossad had warned Italian and Vatican authorities that the Vatican may be a target. Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said there were normal contacts among security services but the Holy See had been given no “concrete and specific” information over any risk.

Pope Francis on Monday condemned last week’s killings by Islamist militants in Paris and urged Muslim leaders to denounce interpretations of religion that use God’s name to justify violence.

“Violence is always the product of a falsification of religion, its use a pretext for ideological schemes whose only goal is power over others,” the pope said in an annual meeting with diplomats from 180 countries accredited to the Vatican, a speech informally known as his “State of the World” address…

  • Martin B

    Islam IS an ideological scheme whose only goal is power over others. That’s not a falsification, you damned old fool!

    • Brett_McS

      The way he puts that, I believe he understands that point; that Islam is more than just a religion.

      • Icebow

        Or less than just a religion.

      • Clausewitz

        It has never been a religion. At best it may be a cult.

    • ellake

      No. I don’t think he is a fool. For example he said that “Violence is always the product of a falsification of religion, its use a pretext for ideological schemes whose only goal is power over others,” Note, he did not say that Islam is peacefull, he also did not said that Islam’s goal is not a power over others”
      He is a leader of many people and he is afraid of a global religious war. It, of course, may come to that, but he does not want it.
      I think he is too peacefull for present times, and he really believes what Jesus Christ said.
      Also, did chief rabinate of Israel or Ortodox pope said recently that “Islam is religion of war”, and that “It is an ideological scheme whose only goal is power over others”. Correct me, if I am mistaken, but I do not think so. They may have alluded to that, but not said it exactly like that.

      • tom_billesley

        A global religious war is what he’s got. It’s been going for near on 14 centuries, blowing hot or cold in accordance with the confidence of the mahometans. A formal declaration of jihad is not a prerequisite for violent aggression, just a recruiting tool.

    • It is a heresy, as Pope Francis should know with even a cursory look at surah 5:75.

  • BillyHW

    I’m so sick of our faggot bishops, and our retard pope.

    • ntt1

      you got a fair way to go in order to catch up(?) with the Anglican Church,progressive idiots as the last few Arch Bishops and flocks of beamy blue rinsed church ladies taking over . the Church is now finally focused down to providing pastoral care to gay muslims and lesbian women.

      • BillyHW

        God created the Anglican Church so that Catholics could feel better about themselves.

        • DMB


        • But then they convert back to the Church, so…

        • Clausewitz

          And he created the UCC so Anglicans would feel better about themselves. Over my life time I did not leave the United Church, it left me.

  • Alain

    There is no falsification of Islam; it is written in black and white that anyone can read. The violence is an integral part of Islam, which shows that the writer is either dishonest or has not bothered to learn about Islam. Perhaps some Islamic violence directed their way may wake them up.

    • Icebow

      Latest Pegida march up to 25,000. Strangely, counter-demos in more muzzed-up areas adding to about 100K

    • winniec

      ‘No falsification’…that’s right. Islam is highly codified. There is no mistake. Sharia law is clear. There is no toleration of blasphemy, expressing a lack of faith in Islam or mocking any Islamic doctrine. The punishment is execution by the state or by vigilantes.

  • winniec

    Infallible…?? Someone should tell the pope he’s uninformed about Islam! Islam DOES preach violence in the name of God!


    From Islamic Commentaries:

    -“Insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be
    upon him) is one of the worst of forbidden actions… whether done seriously or
    in jest. The one who does that is to be EXECUTED even if he repents and whether
    he is a Muslim or a kaafir.” – Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438

    -as-Suyuti writes: “(If they break their oaths…) This ayah
    (K. 9:11-12) is used as a proof by those who say that if a dhimmi attacks Islam
    or the Qur’an or mentions the Prophet in a bad manner, HE IS KILLED, whether he
    has broken a treaty or not. Those who say that his repentance is accepted use
    as a proof, “hopefully they will stop.””

    -“(And if they) the people of Mecca (break their pledges)
    which are between you and them (after their treaty (has been made with you) and
    assail your religion) and defame the Religion of Islam, (then fight the heads
    of disbelief) fight the leaders of disbelief: Abu Sufyan and his host. (Lo!
    they have no binding oaths in order that they may desist) from breaking their
    pledges.” -Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs

    -“It is related that a man forged lies against the Prophet
    and he sent ‘Ali and az-Zubayr to kill him. Ibn Qani’ related that a man came
    to the Prophet and said, “Messenger of Allah, I heard my father say something
    ugly about you, so I killed him,” and that did not distress the Prophet. – Hadith

    Koranic Verses Censoring Criticism of Islam:

    -K.2:193. “And fight
    them until there is no more Fitnah” (disagreeing with Mohammed), i.e. fight and
    kill disbelievers until no one expresses disagreement with Mohammed.

    -K.9:11-12 “But if
    they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith, –
    fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith, for their oaths are nothing to them, that thus
    they may be restrained.”

    -K.11.173 “Believers,
    retaliation is decreed for you in bloodshed.”

    • ellake

      It seems that you do not know catholics and their religion. Pope is not infalible. Pope is ONLY infalible when he is preching ex cathedra. He was not talking ex cathedra.
      also, what do you want? You want for pope to say that Islam is violent, and that catholics should do …what? Kill muslims? Make war on Muslims? What do you want for him to say?

      • Minicapt

        “Deus Vult”


  • JoKeR
    • winniec

      Did Pope Francis forget this? The assassin was a Muslim.

      • Clausewitz

        And a Turk.

    • ellake

      aha, and all other religion hear evil, and speak about evil .
      Why don’t you tell us what the Rabinate of Israel said recently regarding Muslims? Or perhaps you will quote Orthodox Pope on Islam? Or atheist European politicians?
      Why don’t you?

      • tom_billesley

        I quote myself “Islam is a crock”.

  • cmh

    The Pope is a sitting duck. he is putting all his hopes into his interfaith outreach fairy tale.

    • ellake

      You forgot that catholics had many martyrs and if Pope will be martyred then all bets are out.
      Perhaps he is thinking about that?

  • WalterBannon

    The pope is a marxist dink

    • ellake

      I am peacefull person. But I have my opinion, and in my opinion you are an idiot.

      • simus1

        And so is “Flaky Frank”.

      • Clausewitz

        His point is still valid. The present day Pope comes from South American where the majority of the Priests are very deep into Marxist “Social Justice”.

  • Saint John Paul II was a great example of many things, including why one should take threats seriously.

    • ellake

      Well. he was living under communists, so he knew the dangers.
      I am not sure that present pope knows all the dangers. Or perhaps he is too “out of this world”. Or perhaps he knows the danger and it is such a big threat that he is not up to it. Or perhaps some other things. We do not know.

  • Barrington Minge

    Very good coming from the religion of the Inquisition… and yes, I know…”Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition…..”

  • tom_billesley

    I prefer the previous incumbent’s utterance (quoting Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos)
    “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”