Artists allegedly defiant after #CharlieHebdo but will continue to f̶e̶a̶r̶ ̶c̶e̶n̶s̶o̶r̶s̶h̶i̶p̶ self censor on Islam

(Reuters) – Cartoonists and writers defended freedom of expression after Wednesday’s attack on a satirical magazine in Paris but the reality for some artists accused of insulting Islam has been years in hiding, police protection and, for some, censorship.

Among the 12 dead at Charlie Hebdo, a weekly that lampoons Islam and other religions, were some of France’s top cartoonists. Others before them, such as Swedish artist Lars Vilks, have also drawn threats or actual violence.

“When you take out one of the few bastions of freedom of expression we have, and it has been taken out, who dares to publish anything now?” said Vilks.


 

With rare exception, none of which spring readily to mind as I write, when was the last time you saw a mainstream cartoonist tackle Islam head On?

In fact North American media in general have shied away from publishing Charlie Hebdo’s Mohammed cartoons.

Such cowardice is complicity.

I will not accept the need to protect “staff” against possible attack as an excuse.

If you lack the guts to tackle Islam head on then perhaps you should reconsider your career.

As for respect for Islam? It hasn’t earned it. Ever.

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  • Xavier

    Apparently The Blessed Operation on Charlie was a success.

    Except for those peasants carrying torches and pitchforks.

    • It was divinely inspired by Mohammed and Islam’s death manual the Quran.

      • Gaian

        Dear Moderator,

        It is understood that you are an intelligent and literate person who cares about the atrocities being committed by islamics. I ask you this favor. As an expression of disgust and opposition to these atrocities I ask that you refrain from using a capital letter for the words islam, koran (quran), mohamud, daesh, isis/isil (these two should be replaced by the word daesh which is an Arab insult). They may be nouns and according to the rules should be capitalized, but I consider minimalizing them in any way to be an important statement of opposition and contempt. Please consider it.
        Thank You.

  • Hard Little Machine

    The loudest voices shouting ‘we will not be censored’ yesterday were the very same liberals who not only refused to print these cartoons or address them in any way but they lambasted anyone who did. The fact is that WE are at fault but not for the reasons the left uses. WE are the problem because when WE bow to them then it leaves precious few targets to attack. If the god damn left wing fools, the Jon Stewarts of the world had stood up before, if 10,000 people running 10,000 magazines told the Muslims to go fuck off before then there wouldn’t have been ONE magazine left to bear the brunt. So fuck them. Fuck the Daily Show, fuck CNN, fuck the Independent, fuck MSNBC, fuck the Beeb, fuck David Cameron, fuck Obama, fuck the State department, fuck Comedy Central, Fuck them all with a red hot screwdriver. Fuck them all in flaming nuclear pigshit hell.

    • Xavier

      I will gladly accompany you to the reeducation camp.

      • Exile1981

        Save me a seat and one of those special hug me jackets.

    • Raymond Hietapakka

      …and f*** all the horses and camels they rode in on, too…

  • David Murrell

    On that note, what has come to mind is that of left-wing comic Bill Maher. As left-wing and nasty as this comic is, we all have to admit he did take some risks attacking Islam over the last several months. Clearly this man has worries. One wonders if the Charlie Hebdo murders will shut him up, as to criticizing Islam.

  • Mickey Oberman

    What those “fearless” artists should do if they had an ounce of conscience and courage is flood the media on a daily basis with anti Islam cartoons.

    But they wont. The timid little cowards will not even stand up for their own rights.

  • The Goat

    Is it my fault I’m so good-looking?

    • Mickey Oberman

      Get rid of your beard.
      You look too much like his boyfriend.

  • disqus_PwGxBXHn8l

    Couple thoughts: Flooding the media with anti-Mo cartoons will accomplish nothing but to annoy/enrage/frighten those who care. And those who don’t care won’t suffer for the right to flood the media with cartoons that grieve their neighbours.

    There is something much more important that responsible media can do: Start confronting the real issue:

    The Islamist does not believe that anyone should be allowed to criticize Islam. Not just unbelievers, either. Believers and challenged believers are forbidden to criticize Islam. Or to leave.

    Functionally, of course, this means that no one is allowed to criticize the Islamist’s interpretation of Islam.

    Remember, Islam is not the Catholic Church. The seems to be no central authority who can tell you where the gunman or head chopper stands with respect to Islam with any certainty. How much respect is to be accorded to his opinion, as opposed to the Grand Mufti’s. The resulting chaos is currently beneficial for the Islamist, of course.

    So here is what I suggest to media instead: When Muslim organizations denounce the violence, instead of happily reporting the denunciation, write back to ask one simple question:

    Do you accept that, in a country that espouses freedom of religion, people should be free to criticize Islam? Just as they are free to criticize Christianity, Judaism, and atheism? If not, what in fact DO you believe?

    As a Catholic Christian, I would not encourage the type of criticism levelled at Jesus that some lobby at Mohammed. But it is the price of living in a free society and wanting freedom for myself. Some will use their freedom in that way.

    Our focus should be on whether most Muslims are comfortable with a free, multicultural society, which will always include yobs, hay-hoos, and smart asses that we wish would just shut up.

    If most Muslims turn out not to be comfortable with that, I suggest we have put our finger on the real issue and can proceed from there. – Denyse O’Leary, Ottawa

    • Mickey Oberman

      You still believe in miracles, eh?

      • disqus_PwGxBXHn8l

        How does a belief in miracles follow from what I said? It would not take a great deal of courage for media to start asking, do these groups accept the fundamental right of citizens of a free society to question, criticize, or leave Islam? Confronting that question is far more critical to the discussion we need now than publishing a bunch of rot about Mohammed. In any event, if one must be a martyr, why not be a martyr for something useful?

    • Frau Katze

      There will always be Muslims who say, no, I prefer censorship. But now that they’re already living here, what are we supposed to do now?

      • disqus_PwGxBXHn8l

        Thanks, Frau Katze, that is exactly the discussion we need!

        Not “Should people have the right to draw Mohammed?” but “Should people emigrate to France (or Canada) who will simply live at odds with the values of a free society, and deeply resent them, eventually resulting in violence against those citizens who exercise their rights?”

        Speaking of our own country, the first thing we need to find out is, what proportion of Canadians, including Muslim Canadians, really support government policing of speech on behalf of aggrieved religious believers (or other aggrieved persons)? What proportion thinks one should not be legally permitted to leave an identity group, including a religious one? And what is the breakdown?

        Right now, it could be 20%, could be 80% among Canadians in general or Muslim Canadians, and/or other groups. Few honestly ask, so we just don’t know.

        Two groups help prevent us from knowing:

        1. Deadhead media cowards who won’t ask the questions AND persist until they get serious answers.

        2. People who think the solution is just to pour more gasoline on the fire (= I gotta RIGHT!!).

        I support the right of both groups to behave the way they do, but believe that neither is a useful strategy.

        I don’t think we can even develop a useful strategy until we establish what proportion of French or Canadians, of whatever affiliation or identity, simply do not believe in the values of a free society. The usefulness of any strategy depends on knowing the strength of the opposition. Denyse O’Leary, Ottawa

        • Frau Katze

          I agree. There is a great deal we do not know. Most of what we do know comes from private polling companies like Pew.

          The government itself has zero interest in finding out. In Europe they are growing more and more censorious.

          They are actively trying to stop people from figuring out the nature of their new neighbours, that were merrily imported with nary a thought of the long term consequences.

          Names are withheld until trials in the UK, in many cases. “Hate speech” laws proliferate.

          • disqus_PwGxBXHn8l

            Two things that may help are a) reduced reliance on legacy news media, who have a vested interest in not raising questions, correct answers to which are important to our safety and well-being. b) Canadians can sometimes be frightened into doing things we cannot be shamed into. People may just start tuning out Toronto Starspeak and asking about threat levels.

    • Gaian

      islamics are not allowed to mock Jesus because Jesus is considered one of their prophets and stands higher in rank than mohamud, who was supposedly only a messenger (translation, an illiterate, Bedouin, pedophile bandit who had someone write a terror operations manual called the koran for him to send the message that islam was here to plunder, rape and enslave the world). islamics may not mock Jesus, but it sure doesn’t prevent them from slaughtering Christian men, women and children. Hypocrisy thy name is islam.

  • tom_billesley

    Remember Molly Norris and “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day”?

    • Frau Katze

      The one who had to change her name and go into hiding?

      • That one.

      • Minicapt

        “Molly Norris” was her pseudonym. She’s still operating somewhere in Seattle’s avant-garde community, using her real and previous pen-names.
        And, no, she did not go into hiding on the advice of the FBI …

        Cheers

        • Frau Katze

          OK. Thanks for the info.

  • Gaian

    THIS IS A RATHER DISTURBING WARNING TO SAY THE LEAST!

    GOOD THING WE DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ISLAM…

    EQUALLY GOOD isis (daesh) IS ONLY THE JUNIOR VARSITY TEAM!

    BECAUSE WHAT THIS EX-muslim SAYS SCARES THE @%# OUT OF ME!

    OUR ENEMIES MOCK OUR PATHETIC SENSE OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!

    I was born and raised as Muslim. My whole family is still Muslim. I
    know every genetic code of Muslim. I know Islamic brain. I live and
    breath with them. I am an insider. I left Islam when I understood that
    Islam is a sick and evil religion.

    Following are the Islamic message to the West.

    To the infidels of the West:

    Constitution for the new Islamic Republic of EU and USA is under construction.

    We will fight the infidel to death.

    Meanwhile American laws will protect us.

    Democrats and Leftist will support us.

    UNO will legitimize us.

    CAIR will incubate us.

    ACLU will empower us.

    Western Universities will educate us.

    Mosques will shelter us

    OPEC will finance us

    Hollywood will love us.

    Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.

    Our children will immigrate from Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran,
    and Indonesia and even from India to the US and to the other Western
    countries. They will go to the West for education in full scholarship.
    America is paying and will continue to pay for our children’s educations
    and their upbringing in state funded Islamic schools

    We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad.

    We will take the advantage of American kindness, gullibility, and
    compassion. When time comes, we will stab them in the back. We will say
    one thing on the camera and teach another thing to our children at home.
    We will give subliminal messages to our children to uphold Islam at any
    cost. Our children in America will always care more about Islamic
    Country’s interest than US interest.

    We will teach our children Islamic supremacy from the very childhood. We will teach them not to compromise with Infidel.

    Once we do that from the very early age our children won’t hesitate
    to be martyr. We will take over the Europe first and then US will be the
    next. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain,
    Italy, Germany, and now in the US.

    Our children will marry Caucasian in Europe and in America. We will
    mixed with intricate fabric of the Western society but still will
    remember to Jihad when time comes. Who are we?

    We are the “sleeper cells”.

    We will raise our children to be loyal to Islam and Mohammad only. Everything else is secondary.

    At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our
    armor. When American or Israeli troops shoot at us the world will be
    watching. Imagine,- Imagine the news in the world “Death of Muslim
    babies by infidels”.

    We know CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. Al-Jazeera will pour
    gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wildfire. “Americans
    killed 6 babies, 10 babies”. “Jews killed two women”,

    Keep your Nukes in your curio cabinets. Keep your aircraft carrier or
    high-tech weaponry in the showcase. You can’t use them against us
    because of your own higher moral standard. We will take the advantage of
    your higher moral standard and use it against you. We won’t hesitate to
    use our children as suicide bomber against you.

    Visualize the news flash all over the world, -Moslem mother is
    sobbing, -.crying. -.Her babies are killed by Jews and Americans, the
    whole world is watching live. Hundreds of millions of Muslims all around
    the world are boiling. They will march through Europe. We will use our
    women to produce more babies who will in turn be used as armor/shield.
    Our babies are the gift from Allah for Jihad.

    West manufactures their tanks in the factory. We will manufacture our
    military force by natural means, by producing more babies. That is the
    way it is cheaper.

    You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us?

    On the camera:

    We will always say, “Islam is the religion of Peace.”

    We will say, “Jihad is actually inner Jihad.”

    Moderate Muslim will say there is no link between Islam and Terrorism
    and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible.

    Moderate Muslim all over the world will incubate Jihadists by their talk by defending Islam.

    Using Western Legal system we will assert our Sharia Laws, slowly but surely.

    We will increase in number. We will double again.

    You will be impressed when you meet a moderate Muslim personally. As
    your next-door neighbor, coworker, student, teacher, engineer,
    professionals you may even like us. You will find us well mannered,
    polite, humble that will make you say, “wow, Muslims are good and
    peaceful people”, But, we will stab you in your back when you are
    sleeping as we did on 911.

    There will be more 911 in Europe and in America. We will say, “We do not support terrorism but America got what it deserved.”

    Muslims, CAIR, ISNA, MPAC and other international Islamic
    Organization will unite. We will partner with Leftist, ACLU, with Koffi
    Annan, and the UN, and if we have to then even with France. Fasten your
    seatbelt. The war of civilizations has just begun.

    We will recite Quran and say Allah-Hu-Akbar before beheading
    infidels, as we have been doing it. We will video tape those and send it
    to all infidels to watch. They will surrender – ISLAM means surrender.

    We will use your own values of kindness against you.

    You are destined to loose.

    Must be very depressing for you. Isn’t it?

    Allah-Hu-Akbar as we say just before beheading.

    21st Century Islamic Warfare

    Let’s see the effectiveness of Islamic warfare.

    Muslims Vs. the West.

    THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.

    Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing
    $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama’s
    family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)

    In return Osama’s attack on the US.

    Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.

    Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.

    At least $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars economical loss in one year. This includes the ripple effect.

    Osama’s ROI with respect to: life = 3,000/19 = 158 fold.

    Dollar = $1 tr./500K = 2,000,000 fold

    That is modern warfare. The West will loose.

    Allah-Hu-Akbar.

    Islam will rule the world. There is nothing you can do. Even if the
    per capita GDP of the world drops to half of its present level as a
    consequence of Islamic laws in place all over the world but still Islam
    will rule the word.

    From your point of view we bring to the world to the dark ages, so be it. But still Islam wins, West looses.

    Are you sure you want to play this game?

    Jihad, ..Jihad…Jeeehaaad…

    You are destined to loose.

    Allah-hu-Akbar

    Saudi Arabia’s $100 billion investment over the last 3 decades on
    over 60 thousands Madrassas and school all over the Islamic world is
    finally paying off. While the West was busy inventing medicine,
    increasing life expectancy, elevating human suffering, decoding human
    gene to find cure for Cancer, heart disease etc, launching space
    shuttle, inventing internet, working on new laws/theory for human
    rights, developing better economical models for a more prosperous world,
    while ACLU was gaining control over common sense, while American
    ingenuity was benefiting the rest of the world, we Muslims were busy
    producing over 200 million out of 1.4 billion, Walking, Talking,
    Non-Thinking, West-Hating, Pre-Programmed, Suicidal, Parasitic,
    Terrorist Robots. You can’t win. The Genie is out of the bottle.

    We will use American’s kindness, fairness, compassion, freedom of speech and non-discriminatory policy against them.

    We will stab them in the back.

    What are you going to do?

    You are doomed.

  • jzaik

    How dare you insult my prophet like this! I demand you take that cartoon down! Or else, holy hell will be unleashed upon thee. And the hellfire will afflict ALL OF YOU.

    sincerely,
    jzaik
    founder of Goatworshippers of America.

    • Frau Katze

      Have you met our commenter “The Goat”? He often drops by.

      • jzaik

        How dare you! there is only one Goat (SAW)! and mutton (pbuh) is his messenger!

    • Sorry JZ I forgot all about your new Gig!

    • I find your religion vibrant, spiritually nourishing, historically persecuted and likely to piss off sane people if I never shut up about it. Where do I sign up and do I get a funny hat?

      • jzaik

        Really? that’s it? What happened to you Mamba?

        I was expecting something like….”Your religion makes me horny…..”

        “I bet your religion sounds like fun and gamey.”

        *SMH*

        Where oh where can I herd up some comedy around here.

        • Um, okay. Your religion really gets my go…. never mind. I got nothin’. 🙁

    • Mickey Oberman

      Just don’t tangle with the world’s perpetual scapegoat.

      • jzaik

        Hey! I know you.

        Seems like a lot of cross pollinating between here and EoZ.

        I see Hard little Machine here.

  • Raymond Hietapakka

    …my personal fave…technically, you can’t actually see cRaZy m0E…