Analyzing European Views of Muslims

Two polls conducted well before gunmen attacked the Paris offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo say a lot about the state of relations between France and its Muslim population, the largest in Europe.

An ICM Research poll last year found that 16% of the French had a “favorable” view of Islamic State. More than 27% of those ages 18 to 24 said they viewed the extremist movement favorably, while 22% of 25-to-34-year-olds reported a favorable view.

It was the highest favorable rate among three major European powerhouses. In contrast, only 2% of Germans and 7% of Britons reported a favorable view of the extremist movement…

…An estimated 6 million Muslims live in France, which is roughly 10% of the country’s 64 million people. Islam has become France’s second-largest religion, largely because of immigration but also because of converts…

Related, a different poll: 57 percent of Germans feel Islam is a threat: poll

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  • Xavier

    The closer to Mecca, the more unfavorable the opinion of Islam. Except the Poles, the outlier who always were smarter than the rest of Europe.

    • Frau Katze

      The high figure for Italy surprised me, since they are lagging on organized opposition front. The Northern League has been around for a while, but for some time I think they wanted to split from southern Italy. Maybe the north/south problems have held organized opposition. The Northern League is officially expanding (with a different name).

      • Martin B

        The flood of invaders washing up on the shores of southern Italy every day must contribute.

        • Frau Katze

          One would have they would have been of the first to organize. Instead, they’ve done nothing. Of course, we haven’t done anything in Canada either.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            I don’t think that anyone with a full stomach does anything anymore.

          • Frau Katze

            But there’s been organized action in the UK, France and even Sweden. They have functioning parties.

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        I really have no faith in Italian political organizational skills.

        • Frau Katze

          Nope, they seem a disorganized group.

        • Blacksmith

          I really have no faith in Italian organizational skills. 😉

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            Try using their postal system for anything more than a letter.

            Several years ago I mailed a server there and after 90-days and two trips across the Atlantic, after a detour to Florida, and then back to Rome, the customer finally got it.
            He was shockingly understanding, almost as if he were expecting this.

            In the meantime other servers were leaving San Diego and making it to Romania and Estonia in just over a week!
            The UK was always 14-days no matter what, but Finland was never more than 8-days.

            South America was another crap shoot nightmare, except for Uruguay, their postal system had their act together.

        • Hktony

          Italians are too lazy and corrupt to organize anything other than an expresso,usually made by the wife !

      • MRHapla

        How do you say ‘mañana ” in Italian?

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      I wonder just who the Hell started Polish jokes?

      They have gone out of style since the 1970’s, likely because there are far more deserving ethnic populations to make fun of, and the general career killing penalties of telling a racial joke, but why the Poles?

      It’s like making fun of Estonians or something like that.
      I just fail to see the basis of how that ever got started.

      • Xavier

        As they say, go to the source. I am of Polish and Russian heritage – my great grandparents came through Ellis Island in the 1880s separately and met in New Jersey. As children, and knowing none of that history, my brother and I would tell my grandmother Polack jokes but she would just stare at us and not laugh. (her mother, dead by then, was great-grandma from Poland) It seems that all first generation immigrants were ridiculed to some degree because they had to relearn almost everything in their new homeland. For some reason, Polack jokes that stereotyped immigrants stuck with us, but to be fair so did many Greek, Italian, German, etc. jokes too.

        I’m not sensitive about that or being defensive, but in reading WW2 history books I’ve seen many writers comment that Poland was a world renowned center for the arts and science before the Germans and Russians got at them.

        And have you ever seen those Polish girls? Ka-boom!

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Yes, I have noticed!
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syMhJMmGEIc
          They do have… em, a certain charm.

          • Blacksmith

            Well! that will certainly get the blood moving in the morning!

        • Minicapt

          Alexander Graham Kowalski? The first telephone Pole.
          … my grandfather knew many of them.

          Cheers

          • MRHapla

            John III Sobieski,, Kościuszko , Pulaski, Haym Salomon,,,,,,talk about support poles,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

        • Blacksmith

          I have Polish blood as well and as to the Polish girls, AMEN!

    • Frau Katze

      Greece is high too, but their Golden Dawn party was compromised by rank (and completely useless) anti-Semitism.

      I read around on blogs and there’s a popular conspiracy theory that Jews are behind the mass immigration. A giant plot! They conveniently ignore the massive support for mass immigration from non-Jewish sources. Their leaders must be rather stupid.

      I’ve never understood the appeal of conspiracy theories in the first place.

    • MRHapla

      Poland still rembers the Battle of Vienna, John III Sobieski

  • Alain

    Only a poll excluding Muslims would have credibility. They did not ensure that they were polling French non Muslims and the same would apply to the results for other countries.

    • glasnost

      Agreed. The numbers simply reflect the ratio of Muslims in the respective country. If the poll was adjusted to non-Muslims only, then the numbers would simply reflect the ratio of lefties in the respective country.

  • Porky17

    Let’s hope the numbers increase dramatically!

  • Rosenmops

    27% of people age 18-24 in France like ISIS? Can that be true? Does that mean at least 27% of 18-24 years old people are Muslim and/or crazy?

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      I do wonder, because I didn’t think ISIS, inside of ISIS controlled territory, polled even that well.
      When 1/3 of your fighting age youth think ISIS is swell, you have a huge problem.

    • Frau Katze

      It’s seems high. If it’s accurate, they have a huge problem.

  • eMan14

    Seeing the results, the government wont touch that with a 10 foot poll.

  • Blacksmith

    It would be interesting to see that poll run again now after the Charlie Hebdo attack. It would have to have some demographic breakdown to be meaningful though.