Leaked Salvation Army Document Shows It’s Still Homophobic

An message urging supporters of gay rights not to donate is carried by a Salvation Army bell ringer outside the Tillicum Centre mall in Victoria. Dec. 15, 2012. (CTV)

What’s more annoying than the constant ringing of bells by Salvation Army donation-bucket volunteers during the holiday season? The organization’s longstanding, outspoken homophobia, of course!

Last year the Salvation Army did a media blitz claiming that it no longer believes same-sex lovin’ is a sin.

Turns out they were lying. An internal document was recently leaked, and it reveals the dishonest disconnect between what the Salvation Army was telling the public — that they are more LGBT-friendly than their checkered past would indicate — and the fact that they are actually still just as homophobic as ever…

No church that takes a more or less literal reading of the scriptures will ever support gays the way they want. Personally, I have no beef with gays — I believe is it biological and not under their control.

Nonetheless, the Salvation Army has done an enormous of good work since they were founded in 19th century England: their specific message was to reach out to the poorest of the poor.

One needs a sense of balance here. Just as we are endlessly harassed by the media (this from the insufferable Huffington Post) about liberal causes, one of which is to coexist with Islam, the left needs to learn to coexist too.

Islam’s take on gays is far worse than the Salvation Army’s. But attacking Islam might bring a counter-attack: the Salvation Army is a soft target for aggressive social justice types trying to force their beliefs on our entire society.

  • Ron MacDonald

    The Salvation Army is the only one I trust because they receive money is accountable.

  • Uncle_Waspy

    Tolerance? No.
    Big Gay doesn’t want tolerance. They want nothing less than total subservience.

    The Salvation Army one of the very few trustworthy charities.

  • Blacksmith

    Since it will piss off the queers I will hereby double my next donation! I donate at every Kettle I see. Usually pocket change or a bill or two, I will definitely do more as a poke in the eye to the intolerance of the queers.
    This is what your intolerance has bred. I used to have a live and let live attitude, but you have shoved it in my face one too many times.

    • Alain

      I shall do the same now that I found this out. I always give once, but now it will be every time.

    • DD_Austin

      Exactly, i do support humans rights, I don’t support gay rights, they
      can shove their pervert parades up their asses*

      * They enjoy that

    • disqus_W6sfZCiOd8

      “I used to have a live and let live attitude, but you have shoved it in my face one too many times.” I believe you’re speaking for many of us.

      • Alain

        Exactly. I am the same about live and let live and did not and do not support criminalising homosexuality between consenting adults, but I have had it with this constant in-your-face by these people. I also find it pathetic that anyone’s identity is solely based on their sexual practice, but that is what it has become. In short I have no patience or tolerance for any group determined to shove their agenda down the throat of everyone else come hell or high water be it the Muslims, homosexuals, the global warmists or any other.

        • G

          Yeah, I’m going to be donating to the Salv. Army. I’m sick to death of this bullshit.

          Just because some flaming damned drag queen doesn’t feel good about itself doesn’t mean everybody has to have how wonderful its supposed to be rammed down their throat.

  • Raymond Hietapakka

    What good is an army without any guns?

    • Uncle_Waspy

      The Apostles carried arms. Jesus never forbade that.

      • DD_Austin

        They sure did
        He didn’t forbid cigars and whiskey either.

  • leadsoldier

    “I believe is it biological and not under their control.”

    Even if that were the case, does biology also dictate ideology? Is your objection to their ‘trying to force their beliefs’ etc, just the involuntary outburst of your particular electron arrangements?

    Which would make any sort of moral discrimination essentially irrelevant.

    Which would make Dawkins right… it’s all meaningless.

    There is no conclusive scientific proof that ‘gay’ is biologically determined, in any case. It’s all the same sort of woo as Freud, Jung, and bleeding for the Four Humours.

    Perhaps also the detested lying Islamists can’t help it either.

    • Frau Katze

      A tendency to violence is biological too. But since harms other people directly, we have to lock them up.

  • Icebow

    Each Christmas I have to choose between the BBC’s St Martin in the Fields appeal and the Salvation Army. As I regard the BBC as a left-wing organization, I always donate to the latter.

  • Xavier

    “…the left needs to learn to coexist too”

    ‘Coexist’ is something liberalism demands of others; it is not something they are willing or able to apply to themselves.

    SA got a donation today and now they’ll get another.

  • SDMatt

    We donate to the Sally Ann every Christmas and this year will be no different.

  • Jade

    One should remember that is a Christian organization. I is the best charities around. I have seen them in action.

    • Alain

      You don’t need to be Christian to support them. I make my decision as to whom I donate based on how effective and honest the charity is. Far too many are scams in my opinion, but the Salvation Army is not.

      • SDMatt

        Precisely. I’m an atheist and when I drive down Jarvis and see those poor street guys huddled around the Sally Ann, I know where my donation is going.

  • David Murrell

    I disagree a little with the bold-faced commentary at the bottom of this thread. I feel that the Huffington Post goes after the Salvation Army, given that it is a Christian organization, and because it helps low-income people. It refuses to attack Islam or Islamism — not so much because it is fearful of an attack — but because it endorses the vast array of violent human rights abuses worldwide, and because it endorses anti-woman Sharia law. The Huffington Post is a flat out anti-human-rights media organization. It is also very anti-Semitic. It is these awful values which prompts it to attack the Salvation Army.

    • Frau Katze

      You could be right there.

      • G

        This is also why people of Christian faith and those people with social conservative or traditional western values need to circle the wagons & stick together. Vote with your wallets first, ballot second.

  • Edubeat

    The Sally Ann not only has exquisite junk in its second hand stores but, also a very astute management that that still equates sodomy with Katy’s mentor Uncle Ben Levin

  • john700

    A good reason to donate to the Salvation Army.

  • Minicapt

    Does anyone have a list of the hospitals, retirement homes, homeless shelters and programs for the ‘less fortunate’ which are being financed and run by GiLBerTs and/or atheists?


    • Frau Katze

      None that I’ve heard of.

  • dukestreet

    I am not interested in tolerance. I will treat an individual with respect,unless or until they show they done deserve that respect. But, don’t expect me to jettison my beliefs just because someone tries to demand it of me. I am a Salvationist. I will provide services to anyone, regardless of their beliefs etc., as is my Christian duty.

    If you don’t want to donate, don’t. Being a member does not mean that I am blind. I still donate mostly to the SA because,I know how it works and that the money I donate, goes to the purpose for which it is donated. There is an administration already in place wherever they work,so, the money goes to the project and not to admin.

    • Frau Katze

      Sounds reasonable to me.