Cuba deal: good idea? It had help from Canada and the Vatican

The Wall Street Journal makes a cautionary note:

We should stipulate that 20 years ago these columns called for lifting the U.S. trade embargo on Cuba. We did so to assist the impoverished Cuban people and perhaps undermine the regime.

But we also stressed that “no U.S officials have to dignify Castro’s regime by sitting down at a negotiating table” with Cuban officials: “The whole point is to continue to oppose Castro’s government while allowing succor for Cuba’s people.” Mr. Obama’s approach will provide immediate succor to the Castro government in the hope of eventually helping the Cuban people.

The Pope had no qualms at all, from the Daily Mail:

The crucial role played by Pope Francis in bringing Cuba and the United States together signals that history’s first Latin American pope has no qualms about putting the Holy See on the front lines of diplomacy, especially for a cause it has long championed.

The Vatican said on Wednesday that Francis wrote to President Barack Obama and Cuban President Raul Castro in recent months and invited them to resolve their differences over humanitarian issues, including prisoners.

In addition, the Vatican hosted U.S. and Cuban delegations in October ‘and provided its good offices to facilitate a constructive dialogue on delicate matters, resulting in solutions acceptable to both parties,’ the Vatican said.

Neither did Canada, On from Reuters:

Canada’s decision to host secret talks between the United States and Cuba on normalizing relations allowed the two countries the discretion they needed, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Wednesday.

In a brief statement, Harper congratulated the two on their successful dialogue and said Canada supported a future for Cuba that fully embraced the values of freedom, democracy, human rights and the rule of law.

“We were not trying in any way to direct or mediate the talks. We were just trying to make sure that they had the opportunity to have the kind of dialogue they needed to have,” he told the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.

The first direct talks between the United States and Cuba took place in June 2013 in Canada, which hosted the bulk of meetings, U.S. officials said.

Canada has had full diplomatic relations with Cuba since 1945 and Canadian companies have long operated there.

We can only hope for the best at this point.

  • minuteman

    So helping the jailer run his jail is supposed to make it better for the prisoners? I might, but it will certainly make it easier for the head warden. All we will end up doing is aiding and abetting a crime against humanity.

  • The Goat

    The Democrats will negotiate with anyone except the Republicans.

    • Hard Little Machine

      comment of the week

      • The Goat

        OMG, I’ve been featured. How do I look? Is my hair okay?

        • Frau Katze

          A very handsome goat.

        • Clink9

          I know there are some guys out there that would LOVE you.

  • Clausewitz

    Is there any dictatorship that Obama doesn’t like? Just like the shiny pony and his love for the communist Chinese political system.

    • Just a thought

      Tearing Down Walls:
      If it’s in order to give the oppressed free access to civilization, OK.
      If it’s to give the degenerate more opportunities to loot and pillage, not so much.
      Knowing the difference requires thoughtful “discrimination,” which is forbidden by the Left because it would expose who they are.

      • Clausewitz

        Obama couldn’t care less about the oppressed people of Cuba. Hell he wont even acknowledge the will of the American people after the midterms.

        • Just a thought


    • Trudeau and the Castros go way back.

      • Clausewitz

        Indeed, I believe that Fidel is the shiny ponies Godfather.

  • ontario john

    Yeah it really worked in China. They are a bastion of free speech and human rights.

    • Just what I was thinking. China is still a communist craphole.

  • Just a thought

    Admiring non-Cuban – “Gotta say this for you Cubans. At least your street is clean.”
    Cuban – “That’s because we can’t afford the trash to litter it with.”

    • Bataviawillem

      Haiti is a lot poorer and there is trash everywhere.

      • Just a thought

        And the skeptics say Voodoo doesn’t work. 🙂

  • Maggat

    I gotta run over to the NP comments on this article. The Harper Haters will be twisting them selves into little tight knots to slag him on this one. Should be good for a laugh.

    • Maggat

      My golly the HDS bunch sure don’t disappoint.

      • Clausewitz

        They never do.

  • Iamnotweetoddit

    We in Canada do not have clean hands on Cuba. By being one of the friends of Castro, even though we say we are fully for the people of Cuba, we have turned them into our vacation slaves. When you think about it, if all of your vacation dollars go to Fidel, and the toothpaste you leave as a tip to the housekeeper may still be considered illegal to possess by the housekeeper, then you are complicit with his rule. Since President Obama comes from a long line of communist thinkers, making a statement about Cuba in this way is not surprising, but he will have some problems with the Congress, but that is American politics. If I were Mexico or the Dominican Republic I might be worried, then could lose a huge chunk of their tourists from America, but then Canada will lose its’ vacation plantation in Cuba. The one thing the Congress must never do is give Guantanamo Bay, and you Obama is creaming himself trying one up Jiminy Carter on giving crap away.

    • Clink9

      I know so many cheap bastard Canadians that go there without a thought for how those hotel workers really live under that commie toad.

      • Frau Katze

        It seems very popular. I don’t care for hot climates myself.

        • Just a thought

          Winters are great from Cent FL and South. Summers, not so much.

      • Clausewitz

        I had plenty of opportunities so go to Cuba, a couple of them even free. My answer has always be a resounding no.

        • Clink9

          Ya, some of my family and lots of friends and co-workers go. No thanks. I’d rather stick pins in my eyes. I do Florida for the hot stuff.

    • Pete_Brewster

      No we don’t—and ordinary Cubans hate “los tabarnacos,” French Canadian louts on holiday from their non-jobs in the Canadian and Quebec civil service, for propping up Castro with their hard cash.

      Fun fact: my wife’s family’s first family vacation, once arrived in Canada, was to Cuba. My mother-in-law, who in Romania had known extremely hard times, made a point of bringing her daughter’s hand-me-downs as tips for the locals. When Cubans beg, they mean it—but give them cash and the police will take it, with the citizen getting nothing for his pains but a sound beating by revolutionaries who amuse themselves breaking the bones of capitalists.

      • Frau Katze

        I’m not optimistic that this will make much difference. I just read that, so far at least, only Americans with family there will be allowed to travel there.

        The Commie mentality is very hard to shed.

  • The Phantom

    I will go to Cuba after the Castro regime falls and free elections are held. Until then, not a chance.

  • Brett_McS

    The US embargo has excused the Cuban leadership of the blame for Cuba’s condition. Not only may it have been instrumental in keeping that regime in place it has also stopped people from understanding that Socialism is the problem, making it more likely that they will continue on that route even if they get to vote.

    • Frau Katze

      It may end up like Venezuela.

  • Pete_Brewster

    So Obama’s ready to give up the Cuban embargo. The Russian embargo is still on, of course.

    I suppose the difference is that Putin, unlike the Castro brothers, governs with the consent of the people and not the banks. If Wall Street had been serious about removing the Castros, they’d be long gone.

  • At the end of the day, all people want is a cheap holiday on the backs of Cuban slaves.

    Nothing has changed.