UK: Chief constable warns against ‘drift towards police state’

Greater Manchester’s Sir Peter Fahy says it is not the police’s job to define what counts as extremism

The battle against extremism could lead to a “drift towards a police state” in which officers are turned into “thought police”, one of Britain’s most senior chief constables has warned.

Sir Peter Fahy, chief constable of Greater Manchester, said police were being left to decide what is acceptable free speech as the efforts against radicalisation and a severe threat of terrorist attack intensify.

It is politicians, academics and others in civil society who have to define what counts as extremist ideas, he says…

…Fahy said elected politicians and civic society needed to ask and answer questions about free speech’s limits: “When does anti-Israeli protest become antisemitic? How far is it OK to challenge homosexuality, women’s rights? How far is it OK to advocate violent action abroad?”

He added: “These are difficult issues for Muslims and the Catholic church … Extremism is not just about Muslims, there are a lot of rightwing extremists.”He gave another example about the opposition some fundamentalist Christians have to homosexuality: “If that speaker, says all homosexuals are sinful, are mentally defective and need reprogramming and are threat to society, is that preaching hatred?”…

And also consider: What if a Muslim says the same thing about homosexuals? Does being a Muslim cancel it out, somehow?

  • BillyHW

    Do you think maybe this drift towards police states could have been prevented if we didn’t import so many backwards 3rd world muslims who don’t share any of our values into our countries for the sole reason of not wanting to appear racist?

    • Frau Katze

      When it comes to Muslims, diversity has been a disaster.

  • What a moron.

    If you can arrest a university student for joking about an allegedly gay horse, you already live in a police state. If you can arrest an irate father because he wants the criminals who raped his daughter brought to justice, you already live in a police state. If you can equate non-existent anti-homosexual fundamentalists with actual Islamists, you live in a dream world.

    • Frau Katze

      This what I’m afraid of. This new police state will lock up more than just Islamic extremists: it will lock up people who disagree with the elite’s standard narrative.

      • Pete_Brewster

        No they won’t. The Muslims will continue to recruit unmolested. What remains of Britain’s Christian and Jewish communities will be the ones living in a police state determined to drive them underground.

      • What cowards the British elite are!

  • Pete_Brewster

    Cowards. The police know what the “extremist ideas” are and what sort of people hold them. They simply wish to be excused from having to enforce the laws of the land, including those against treason. You know, their job.

  • mauser 98

    drift? it is a police state
    One surveillance camera for every 11 people in Britain

    • Frau Katze

      Yikes. Further gone than I thought.

      • Etobicoke Gladiator (EG)

        Maybe with that many mucking fuslims it is necessary!!!

        • Alain

          The problem is that this was brought in prior to the Muslim problems and no one seems to have objected.

  • simus1

    Sir Peter is just one more spineless bullshitter running a police force who prefers a career lifestyle of not making waves or offending the elites. Much more restful than trying to organize and run a real police operation designed to enforce the law and keep the peace without destroying the democratic rights of the populace.

  • Hard Little Machine

    New? Where’ve you been the last 3 and a half decades?

  • Blacksmith

    He is an idiot, Christianity may not approve of Homosexuals but they don’t preach killing them, this willful ignorance is what is causing the problems.