Erdoğan laments Turkish youths know Einstein but not Muslim scientists

Turkish youths know about foreign scientists and pop stars but they are not informed when it comes to Muslim scholars and local musicians, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said during an address at an education conference.

Erdoğan said a main objective of the education system should be to instill self-confidence in students and that an education system should be deemed faulty if students end up feeling alienated from their own cultural values and civilization.

“If you ask about [Albert] Einstein, everyone has a few words to say about him. But if you say Ibn Sina [Avicenna], you see most have not heard the name. We have youths who memorize names of foreign pop stars but don’t know [the Turkish-Ottoman composers] Dede Efendi or Itri, despise listening to the music of [Turkish folk music singer] Neşet Ertaş. We have youths who speak Turkish with English or French accents, but are ashamed of using the words of their ancestors,” he said at the 19th National Education Council organized by the Ministry of Education. “Unfortunately, we have youths who value the lifestyles, arts and clothing styles of foreign cultures but scorn the values of their own land.”

Erdoğan’s remarks come amid criticism that he and the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) government have been trying to dispense with the secular education system to create a more Islamic youth and society. Erdoğan and government officials defend the controversial education policies as necessary to fight moral decay…


Avicenna live 980-1037 AD. Science did not take off until the concept of conducting experiments came into vogue in Europe. In addition, no one in any part of the world could have done much that long ago. There was first needed improvements in a whole group of areas: metallurgy, glass-blowing, clocks, paper-making, not to mention the printing press. These things gradually developed over time.

We do recognize the contributions Muslims (or at least people living in Muslim areas) made in mathematical notation (algebra) and credit them with realizing that the concept of a number zero (invented in India) was an excellent idea and exposing it to Europe.

But Muslims simply haven’t done much.  Damn those Jews like Einstein.  How dare he?

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  • Erdogan’s nuttiness is becoming increasingly palpable. I hope for a military coup.

    • Frau Katze

      He has eviscerated the armed forces. Half of the upper staff are in jail. Accused of a non-existent plot.

    • ontario john

      Good thing he never saw the old Woody Allen movie “Bananas” or he would be declaring that everyone must wear their underwear on the outside of their pants.

    • DMB

      He is putting Robert Mugabe and Kim Jung Un to shame!

      • Frau Katze

        The memes will start if he keeps this up.

  • Martin B

    A President announces to the whole world that the only way to instill self-confidence in the children of his country is by filling their heads with lies and fabrications. It doesn’t get much sadder than that.

    • Exile1981

      It’s working for Obama so why shouldn’t it work for Erdogan?

  • Alain

    Muslim scientists? That is an oxymoron if there ever was one.

    • Exile1981

      There have been some great muslim scientists:

      Mohammed Mohammedian – Invented the suicide vest

      Mohammed Mohammadine – Invented the goat Burkha so the goats loins are covered.

      Muslims invented the idea of using goat intestines as a condom; Europeans improved on the idea by taking the intestine out of the goat.

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  • Jay Currie

    Didn’t I read somewhere that IS was closing schools because all you need to know is Allah and those pesky multiplication tables were unnecessary?

    You’ll be looking forward to the next crop of Islamic Nobelists just as soon as Islam conquers Sweden which, by the look of things could be sooner than we think.

  • ntt1

    you have to admire the muslims for continuing their dogged investigations of camel piss as the panacea as recommended by Mohamed. After 1400 years most cultures would have given up, but not the arab! ,
    there is still a possibility of camel urine as rocket fuel base to allow muslims to reconquer outer space .now in danger of being over run by filthy kufars
    So research continues on the effluvia of the ship of the desert, to the exclusion of all other.
    Einstein could have done so very much more if he had examined the camel.

  • ontario john

    Thankyou grand poobah of Turkey. Yes we know, islam created everything on earth since the dawn of time. Next time the grand sultan of goats speaks they should have a picture of Fred Flintstone in his grand poobah hat.

  • Hard Little Machine

    Turdegon will no doubt claim Einstein was Muslim

    • Minicapt
      • Hard Little Machine

        holy shit

      • Frau Katze

        These people are barking mad.

    • Norman_In_New_York

      Einstein was preceded by the 13th Century Jewish sage Nachmanides, who put forth the Big Bang theory of creation, as well as finding that matter and energy are equivalent.

  • Harold Harry Francis Callahan

    The Zero is an islamic concept?
    lol, regards, Harry

    • Frau Katze

      No, I said it came from India.

      • Harold Harry Francis Callahan

        K, thank you.
        regards, Harry

  • If there was a plethora of Muslim scientists, as there are Jewish scientists and others of note, then perhaps Turkish youth would know about them.

    Also, do they know about the Armenian genocide?