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National Post – Museum to change bomber exhibit

OTTAWA – The Canadian War Museum will “adjust” its controversial Bomber Command exhibition this fall so that greater “respect” is shown to Canadian war veterans involved in the Second World War bombing of Germany, CanWest News Service has learned.
Bomber Command veterans have long complained that the exhibition makes them out to be “war criminals” whose bombs needlessly killed thousands of German civilians.

The dispute is largely centred around a text panel in the exhibition.

“The value and morality of the strategic bomber offensive against Germany remains bitterly contested,” the panel reads.

“Bomber Command’s aim was to crush civilian morale and force Germany to surrender by destroying its cities and industrial installations. Although Bomber Command and American attacks left 600,000 Germans dead and more than five million homeless, the raids resulted in only small reductions of German war production until late in the war.”

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WW II was a fight to the death. Debates about morality by smarmy left wing academics are nonsense. The bombing campaign drew huge resources in civilian and military manpower that would otherwise have been channelled to the tip of the spear. Our veterans deserve better than the smear perpetrated by the original exhibit.

I have been once to the Canadian War Museum, overall it is a fine effort. My biggest disappointment, aside from the Bomber Exhibit, was the book shop which I found was well stocked with Anti-Bush, Anti-American crap.

  • Pongo

    To the museum’s credit, when I visited, the 50-caliber MacMillan TAC-50 rifle, used by Cpl. Rob Furlong a sniper from the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, in setting a new world record during Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan in 2003. Master Cpl. Perry neutralized a Taliban fighter from a distance of 2,430 metres, i.e., 1.5 miles.

    At the time he and his sniper team, which consisted of MCpl. Graham Ragsdale (Team Commander), MCpl. Tim McMeekin, MCpl. Arron Perry, Cpl. Dennis Eason, were attached to the US Army. Subsequently, the US Army wanted to award them the Bronze Star, but the Liberal government of the day in Canada was only embarrassed by our fighting men’s achievement and wanted none of it.

  • Unbelievable Pongo, but typical of our Liberals.

  • Thank goodness we had these bombers. This was a war of unconditional surrender, and just at that!

    It’s all political correctness nowadays!

    Burkean Reflections

  • JR

    Exactly. “value and morality…bitterly contested” by whom? Pc handwringing over the ‘morality’ of strategic bombing has no place in the war museum.

  • Pongo

    World War II was total war, just as WW I before it. During WW I both sides took to using poison gas on the battlefield and bombing eachother’s cities using the aircraft of the day: zeppelins and biplanes. At the time it was hotly debated as to whether bombing cities was ethical. In fact, there was a heated debate over whether or not the dead crew of a zeppelin shot down over England deserved military honours at their burial, because their mission had been to bomb English cities.

    At the end of the war, both sides agreed to outlaw the use of poison gas, and Hitler, who survived a gas attack on the Western Front, expressly forbid its use by the German Army in World War II. However, by World War II, the debate over whether or not the bombing of cities was ethical was settled, sort of. Both sides bombed eachother’s cities during WW II, but the victorious Allies condemned Axis leaders to death for having waged aggressive war, and for having bombed cities in Allied nations.

    The condemnation of the bombing of cities spilled over onto the young men who flew in Bomber Command and the officers who led them. Marshal of the Royal Air Force Sir Arthur Travers Harris commanded Bomber Command in the Royal Air Force. He carried out Prime Minister Churchill’s orders to bomb German cities only to be betrayed by the same politicians who issued the orders, and become a pariah after the war. He has gone down in history saddled with the nicknames “Bomber Harris” and “Butcher Harris.”

    The strategy of bombing cities was devised by the governments of Allied nations. The thinking was that in bombing cities, industrial sites, etc., the the citizenry would be so enraged they would rise up and overthrow their leaders. In reality, it had the opposite effect. The people who endured the bombing directed their hatred against those who were bombing them.

    Whether or not you think the decision to bomb Germand cities during World War II was ethical, the men who answered the call of duty during World War II and flew in Bomber Command of the RCAF deserve our respect.

  • MUD

    People that try to make War anything but a fight to the death just don’t understand. Carpet bombing was the technology available at the time. The new era has bombs that can fit in a window but a flight of B-29’s just bombed the hell out of an area. Live by the armament plant and die there!

  • My father was a tail gunner on a B-19 during WWII. He never spoke of it (the war) and I had to learn about WWII through books, as it sure wasn’t taught correctly in school. There’s been a big to-do about the annihilation of Dresden by carpet bombing, mainly foisted on us by David Irving, and other revisionists. It just isn’t so.
    War is war and it should be fought to the fullest capabilities that one has on their side. You can’t negotiate and play nice with tyrants nor dictators. If you do you’ll wind up with the same debacle that happened in Korea, Viet Nam and the Middle East. How does the old saying go…”All is fair in love and….

  • The only thing controversial is people who think we should have tried to lose the war.

    If we hadn’t bombed the crap out of Germany they would have freed up between 500,000 and 1 million men in arms.

    Would Zhukov have wanted 500,000 German reinforcements to show up at Stalingrad?

    Besides they bombed London first years before the firestorms.

  • Every September, I recall that is more than half a century (62 years) since I landed at Nagasaki with the 2nd Marine Division in the original occupation of Japan following World War II. This time every year, I have watched and listened to the light-hearted “peaceniks” and their light-headed symbolism-without-substance of ringing bells, flying pigeons, floating candles, and sonorous chanting and I recall again that “Peace is not a cause – it is an effect.”

    In July, 1945, my fellow 8th RCT Marines [I was a BARman] and I returned to Saipan following the successful conclusion of the Battle of Okinawa. We were issued new equipment and replacements joined each outfit in preparation for our coming amphibious assault on the home islands of Japan.

    B-29 bombing had leveled the major cities of Japan, including Kobe, Osaka, Nagoya, Yokohama, Yokosuka, and Tokyo.

    We were informed we would land three Marine divisions and six Army divisions, perhaps abreast, with large reserves following us in. It was estimated that it would cost half a million casualties to subdue the Japanese homeland.

    In August, the A-bomb was dropped on Hiroshima but the Japanese government refused to surrender. Three days later a second A-bomb was dropped on the city of Nagasaki. The Imperial Japanese government finally surrendered.

    Following the 1941 sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, a Japanese admiral said, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant…” Indeed, they had. Not surprisingly, the atomic bomb was produced by a free people functioning in a free environment. Not surprisingly because the creative process is a natural human choice-making process and inventiveness occurs most readily where choice-making opportunities abound. America!

    Tamper with a giant, indeed! Tyrants, beware: Free men are nature’s pit bulls of Liberty! The Japanese learned the hard way what tyrants of any generation should know: Never start a war with a free people – you never know what they may invent!

    As a newly assigned member of a U.S. Marine intelligence section, I had a unique opportunity to visit many major cities of Japan, including Tokyo and Hiroshima, within weeks of their destruction. For a full year I observed the beaches, weapons, and troops we would have assaulted had the A-bombs not been dropped. Yes, it would have been very destructive for all, but especially for the people of Japan.

    When we landed in Japan, for what came to be the finest and most humane occupation of a defeated enemy in recorded history, it was with great appreciation, thanksgiving, and praise for the atomic bomb team, including the aircrew of the Enola Gay. A half million American homes had been spared the Gold Star flag, including, I’m sure, my own.

    Whenever I hear the apologists expressing guilt and shame for A-bombing and ending the war Japan had started (they ignore the cause-effect relation between Pearl Harbor and Nagasaki), I have noted that neither the effete critics nor the puff-adder politicians are among us in the assault landing-craft or the stinking rice paddies of their suggested alternative, “conventional” warfare. Stammering reluctance is obvious and continuous, but they do love to pontificate about the Rights that others, and the Bomb, have bought and preserved for them.

    The vanities of ignorance and camouflaged cowardice abound as license for the assertion of virtuous “rights” purchased by the blood of others – those others who have borne the burden and physical expense of Rights whining apologists so casually and self-righteously claim.

    At best, these fakers manifest a profound and cryptic ignorance of causal relations, myopic perception, and dull I.Q. At worst, there is a word and description in The Constitution defining those who love the enemy more than they love their own countrymen and their own posterity. Every Yankee Doodle Dandy knows what that word is.

    In 1945, America was the only nation in the world with the Bomb and it behaved responsibly and respectfully. It remained so until two among us betrayed it to the Kremlin. Still, this American weapon system has been the prime deterrent to earth’s latest model world- tyranny: Seventy years of Soviet collectivist definition, coercion, and domination of individual human beings.

    The message is this: Trust Freedom. Remember, tyrants never learn. The restriction of Freedom is the limitation of human choice, and choice is the fulcrum-point of the creative process in human affairs. As earth’s choicemaker, it is our human identity on nature’s beautiful blue planet and the natural premise of man’s free institutions, environments, and respectful relations with one another. Made in the image of our Creator, free men choose, create, and progress – or die.

    Free men should not fear the moon-god-crowd oppressor nor choose any of his ways. Recall with a confident Job and a victorious David, “Know ye not that you are in league with the stones of the field?”

    Semper Fidelis
    Jim Baxter
    Sgt. USMC
    WW II and Korean War

    Job 5:23 Proverbs 3:31 I Samuel 17:40

  • moral equivalence isn’t just a political position, I’m beginning to believe it is an organic malfunction.

    Great blog by the way.

  • Just catching back up. Like the new look! This is ODP…Yeah, you know me! I think I’ve finally migrated to a place where I will stay.

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