Love is Blind – Islamofascism & The Left

I found this interesting thread on Rabble/Babble . A Babbler named Salmontare made the following statement:

“Berman is correct in his analysis of Islam, but tragically wrong in his decision of what needs to be done to confront it.

Islam has never been metaphorically interpreted, never interpreted as the writing of people from 700 AD, and indeed, the Koran and Hadith leave much less in the way of allowing those kinds of interpretations as the Bible does, particularly with the NT.

We can clearly see what is happening with Muslim immigration into Europe. Infibulations, honor killings, beatings and murders of homosexuals, political and media assassinations and assassination attempts, not to mention an overall increase in the crime rate.

I wish we could get some reasonable politicians who want to protect liberal social values and the welfare state, while talking honestly about Islam and how to deal with it. It’s obvious to most people that war won’t solve this, but we need to talk about integration and the role of multiculturalism at least, before we start having the same problems with Muslim immigration that Europe has.

Salmontarre’s comment was followed by this rebuttal from Slumberjack:

quote:

Originally posted by Salmontarre:We can clearly see what is happening with Muslim immigration into Europe. Infibulations, honor killings, beatings and murders of homosexuals, political and media assassinations and assassination attempts, not to mention an overall increase in the crime rate….I wish we could get some reasonable politicians who want to protect liberal social values and the welfare state, while talking honestly about Islam and how to deal with it. It’s obvious to most people that war won’t solve this, but we need to talk about integration and the role of multiculturalism at least, before we start having the same problems with Muslim immigration that Europe has.

Rebuttal:

There were periods throught the history of immigration to North America where uncomplimentary things were said about other groups who were arriving, such a the Irish, Ukrainians, Chinese, people fleeing slavery, etc. Somehow, in spite of the shortcomings and dangers that some established citizens were warning about, they managed to fit in quite nicely among the very people who were fear-mongering over their arrival. People like you. Let the laws of the land under the Charter prevail equally over all citizens regardless of where they come from, or what they pray about, and let those same laws equally protect those that require protection.

Salmontarre’s response to Slumberjack’s rebuttal:

Oh, get off it.

Irish and Chinese immigrants didn’t believe they were moving into a land of unbelieving infidels, nor were they hostile to secular democracy. In fact, it was a primary reason for moving here.
Irish and Chinese immigrants didn’t kill their daughters and sisters to ‘retain honour’, either. I think perhaps you don’t understand how common honour killing is among Muslim immigrants in Europe. In the Netherlands, the number of honour killings is approximately 50 per year.
Islam immigration into Europe is not the same as previous immigration. They do not integrate into society, and in fact they are pushed to maintain their culture, despite it’s incompatibility with liberal democracy.
I’m not saying we should cut off Muslim immigration, I’m saying that immigrants who are likely to be hostile to democracy and to the idea of multiculturalism need to be integrated.
A culture that is hostile to women, democracy, secularism, multiculturalsm, homosexuality and other religions to the point of committing murders and terrorist acts isn’t just different from general Western culture, it is inferior to general Western culture.

Now the Lunatic Left at Babble chimes in with all their dim fury:


From Kropotkin1951

quote by Salmontarre:

“A culture that is hostile to women, democracy, secularism, multiculturalsm, homosexuality and other religions to the point of committing murders and terrorist acts isn’t just different from general Western culture, it is inferior to general Western culture.”

Bigotry at its height. Should we screen Christians to determine their views on same sex marriage and abortion and make sure that they are not tainted by frundamentalism?

From Remind “The Unmedicated” One of the more rabid Babble feminista’s

quote:
Originally posted by Salmontarre:A culture that is hostile to women, democracy, secularism, multiculturalsm, homosexuality and other religions to the point of committing murders and terrorist acts isn’t just different from general Western culture, it is inferior to general Western culture.

“And why are you posting here?”

This is what passes for dialogue among the “True Believers” of the Left. They adhere to an orthodoxy as rigid as that of the Islamofascists. Rather than defend or refute an argument they immediately accuse Salmontarre of bigotry. Accusations of racism or bigotry are the 1st, last and only weapons in their sorry arsenal.

Rabbler’s never cease to amaze me, the doublethink required to defend Islamofascism and at the same time claim the moral high ground as purported beacons of Tolerance, Gay, Female & Human Rights in general is beyond comprehension.

Salmontarre was needless to say booted in short order. The Truth Hurts.

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