If only America had never been discovered, what a wonderful world it would be!


  • topposter

    So…..not for open borders then. Trump supporters! 🙂

  • Dave

    I guess there was no tribal warfare and everything was skittles and unicorn farts.
    No rifles to hunt with, no snowmobiles or pickup trucks. Yup, heaven.

    • ntt1

      On the west coast there was constant raiding by Haida and despite the richness of the marine environment death often came in the early thirties due to starvation and exposure.

      • Kathy Prendergast

        The West Coast Indians were among the richest in North America because of the abundance of salmon and other natural resources; particularly cedar trees which they used for everything from housing to clothing. I’ve seen some of the things they made from cedar in museums and they are amazing. But living on the West Coast myself, I can’t imagine that cloth made from woven cedar fibre would ever keep one as warm and dry in a damp West Coast winter as the woolen cloth the Europeans brought with them, which is why this instantly became such a highly valued product. The natives recogized its superiority. Certain technologies and products brought by the Europeans benefited natives enormously and led to their numbers increasing, not decreasing, despite introduced diseases which of course took a terrible toll.

        • favill

          Let’s call a spade a spade…North American Indians were a stone-age people when the “evil” white man showed up on their shores.

          • Editor

            Yep. A hunter-gatherer society visited by Europeans who arrived in ships capable of trans oceanic passages, with compasses, muskets, metal work, etc. I’ve often wondered what CPU version, e.g. i5, i7, the indigenous people of North America would be at right now had the continent been left in complete isolation.

  • BillyHW

    I wonder where they found Dances With Rectums.

  • Martin B

    If Columbus hadn’t discovered America, then the Aztecs would have taken over and every one of these fucking idiots would have been a human sacrifice:


    • That’d teach ’em.

    • Kathy Prendergast

      And if it hadn’t been the Aztecs, eventually it would have been the Japanese or the Chinese.

    • Columbus has gotten a bad rap — he actually advocated for the Indians. I studied his correspondence when I was in U. (that’s right folks you can actually read what Columbus wrote in the 15th Century about his experiences in the New World — written in Castilian Spanish — it’s all on microfiche).

      Although Columbus was rather “paternalistic” by today’s standards and tended to romanticize the Indians, the fact is he was not an exploiter or racist against Indians the way organizations such as AIM (American Indian Movement) have misrepresented him. Columbus was simply a navigator and explorer — he had nothing to do with the repression and exploitation of Indians after Spain colonized the region (the latter still heavily influenced by the Spanish Inquisition I might add).

      Columbus in fact died in obscurity and poverty after returning to his native Genoa. Spain threw him to the dogs.

  • Clausewitz

    This from a people who didn’t even have the wheel until they saw it being used by those white devils.

    • Minicapt

      And they killed and ate their horses. Then they had to walk everywhere until the Spaniards gave them a second chance.


    • ntt1

      didn’t have horses either just dogs to pull travois and to eat as needed.

  • Pavelina

    If only the muslims had stayed in Arabia … how much better off the whole world would have been.

    • Kathy Prendergast

      Didn’t you get the memo? Only whites can be racist, and only whites can be “invaders” or “colonizers”. When they’re not white, they are just “poor desperate people seeking a better life” tearing down fences and storming sovereign borders and they must be welcomed with open arms.

  • Minicapt

    Still don’t understand the wish for an “Indignant Peoples Day”.


    • ntt1

      You get all that soulful drumming and synchronized whinning…for free

    • Kathy Prendergast

      In today’s culture of complaint and entitlement, every day is Indignant Peoples Day.

  • Kathy Prendergast

    Many native Americans wouldn’t be here today if Europeans hadn’t discovered America, because various products they brought with them – such as horses, metal tools, firearms, woven cloth, medicine, etc. – hugely benefited their ancestors, and increased their life expectancy and the survival rates of their children and their descendents. The Europeans certainly did and brought many bad things too, but history is history.

    • ntt1

      Before contact (metal) carving a single talking stick( small mace-like miniature totem pole) could be a life’s work. an entire tribe was needed to burn down ,transport and carve a full size pole.it too was a long process using bone and stone tools (copper was available but was prized above all else)
      when trade axes appeared, carving exploded and poles became deeply carved and numerous. the Kwakiutls (northern Van. island) style evolved into such deep carving that one pole barber chaired (burst apart)as it was slid upright and killed several people

    • barryjr

      I never really thought about the life expectancy angle before, thanks .

      • ntt1

        Pre contact an indian elder was in their late twenties often dead by 32. no effective medicine no dental no surgery no glasses ,infant mortality was high due to lack of obstetrics, post natal care.

  • xavier

    Yeah living a pre Stone age nomadic existence is soooooo superior to civilization.
    And living as one of the conquered tribes of the Aztecs was better than a European welfare state in the early 60s.

    Let’s not forget the Iroquois genocide of the Huron in the early 1500s just before Jacques Cartier discovered the Saint Lawrence.

    The colonization was tragic but if you take a good look, in the south and in Quebec, the indigenious people despite the horrific suffering still survive.

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    You know, without a written language, we wouldn’t have to listen to as much Indian bullish!t.

    • Justin St.Denis

      Well, it was the Jesuits who worked on “writing” in native languages. Indians would never have come up with that by themselves for another few thousand years.

      • Fray Bartolomé de las Casas — tremendous 15th Century advocate for the Indigenous people after witnessing their mistreatment at the hands of Spanish colonists. And to his credit he wasn’t Jesuit — he was a Dominican Friar.

  • Hard Little Machine

    Not sure how they were going to render it invisible.

  • Gary

    Wait until they see what islam does to the Natives of every nation they invaded.

    They saw the White man , they saw the Black man, they see the Brown man , but now comes the Olive man with a Holy Book the wants them DEAD to steal the land for islam and the Caliphate .