United Church Finally Realizes Having An Atheist Minister Not Good For The Franchise


No more “Gospel According To Star Trek” which had replaced traditional services.

Gretta Vosper, the popular and controversial United Church of Canada minister who calls herself an atheist, should no longer be a minister, a review committee has recommended.

“In our opinion, she is not suitable to continue in ordained ministry because she does not believe in God, Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit,” the church’s Toronto Conference Review Committee concluded in a 39-page report released Wednesday.

  • CodexCoder

    Considering she pretty much represents the remaining constituents of the United Church, why would they bother? And how does she stand out as controversial among people that think God condones homosexuality?

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    That this was even a topic of discussion, and that she wasn’t booted immediately, shows how morally bankrupt the United Church of Canada really is.
    They should just fold up shop.

  • Ed

    She wants the salary and pension that go with the job, but none of the constraints. She’s too much of a coward to effectively “start her own business,” and sink or swim on the sale of her “product.”

    • LauraS

      Exactly! She doesn’t want to walk away from the financial perks of being a UC minister (salary, tax breaks, etc.) to become a professional speaker.

      Those in the congregation supporting Gretta would do well to remember what the Bible says about the Laodicean Church! (Revelation 3:16)

    • zee

      She has nothing to worry about. She’s perfectly qualified to be a Liberal Cabinet Minister.

  • Clink9

    I can’t believe how stupid this planet is becoming. Let me off at the next stop.

  • G

    Another middle aged yappy lesbian who hates traditional morality and wants to get paid for hating it.

    Whatever, go get a useful job bitch.
    I hear their hiring at that mechanic’s uniform laundry place.
    Oh, wait, that’s actual work. You wouldn’t like that.

  • moraywatson

    In other news, Hells Angels say members have to ride a motorcycle, not take the bus.

  • Justin St.Denis

    Captain Obvious clearly visited the UCC and helped them get things straight, no pun intended.

  • I’m not a theologian but shouldn’t one believe in God if one professes to be a Christian?

    That one’s a constant niggle.

    • Clink9

      That’s such a corny old concept. Just because I’m 6 feet tall and don’t speak French doesn’t mean I’m not Napolean.

  • bargogx1

    Obviously a mentally unstable individual who does not belong in any kind of position of authority. Perhaps they could let her be the church janitor or something.

  • FactsWillOut

    So, a bunch of brain-dead morons have decided to try NOT acting like the retards they are. That should work.
    They should try out for the “Twit Olympics.”

  • Billy Bob Thornton

    Who cares as if the politicians believe in anything? United Church does show empathy which Jesus himself actually did believe in.

    United Church also understands that plunging nations into war is another problem.

    United Church also understands that total war is another issue which can make this planet a barren wasteland.

    United Church truly is more Christian than most Christians and I am talking about the extreme Protestant Evangelicals that want the rapture and are demons of Satan, and most likely have churches where they worship money.

    • FactsWillOut

      Yes, and I have 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes and a nose, just like Jesus!

      You wouldn’t know Christianity if it pummeled you with a bottle of holy water.
      Oh, and total war cannot make the planet a barren wasteland. Last I checked, Russia, the UK and Germany had pretty well-fed populations, and they’re the only ones to have endured relatively modern total war.
      Turning the other cheek is an act of defiance, not submission.

      • Billy Bob Thornton

        Well it is anti-religious because anti-Islam means giving into movements to listen to what one wants but it is to power a new form of elites to get into power when in the end they have identical economic policies to the current ones in power. That is a conversation I have with my friend and others about how the death of capitalism means that these right wing parties are appearing but they are coupled with virtually the same economic movements. Why not try something different because 9/11 is coming up and these wars have lasted longer than both combined! It is obvious that the elites exist on both sides and the way to fix the system is to not vote in these useless mainstream parties, and to try something different.

        Total war is what is occurring with Africom, ME adventurism, the South China sea staredowns, and with Ukraine. The West is in its dying days because of mainstream parties. Islam can work within capitalism by having immigration, education and secularism.

        Who said anything about mass immigration? I agree with self-defense but I would never advocate a war with Islam because it is unwinnable and because would you fight Iran? Would you fight Pakistan? Would you fight Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States? It seems too overreaching and even the story on Press TV about Saudi Wahabbism creating the problems in the Middle East do sum it up!

        • FactsWillOut

          We beat them all back to the Arabian Peninsula once, it can be done again, and this time, finish them off.
          Islam is a militant, proselytizing, expansionist death cult with zero tolerance for all other groups. To say that it can be assimilated into a civilized world is to deny that its even Islam.
          Total war is what the UK, Russia and Germany experienced in WW2, when the ENTIRE economic output of the respective nations was devoted to the war effort in an effort to annihilate the enemy by bombing cities to rubble, using scorched earth, etc. There are no examples of total war currently existing.

          As long as humans are humans, world peace is impossible. Heck, even without humans, there wouldn’t be world peace.

          • Billy Bob Thornton

            Well any sort of Middle East change will occur by many nations moving over to China, Russia and BRICS. I do not foresee major wars and Russia is expected to lead on the forefront and Iran and Lebanon being part of that alliance.

            It is true that Russia and China wish to avoid total war with the US and the NATO alliance. That said, total war is over.

            Islam is most likely going to go on but it will never have a reformation.

            This seems like the most likely scenario in their current projection.

          • Minicapt

            “Thou surly spur-galled whey-face!”


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  • Billy Bob Thornton

    The United Church also does serve a purpose to get the extreme people and the people without a religion and a home to have a voice. It would make humanity much better because constantly by the mainstream media and Rebel we are tended into groups to make us easier to mold. Ending this War on Terror should be part of a wider strategy to ensure we do not have internal conflicts and strife and so our planet can be truly transferred onto future generations. Remember it is the goal of the elites to have never-ending war and divide us up. The elites have their bunkers. We need to have assurances that there are organizations to make our lives better. United Church can be one of them.

    • FactsWillOut

      It’s groups like the UC and the commies that are playing at identity politics, not conservatives.
      I agree, there should be no war on terror, as terror is merely a tactic. There should be a war on Islam, and a war on collectivism. Note that both Islam and collectivists use terror.

      • Billy Bob Thornton

        That is like saying that the Crusades were a good thing when no Pope should have ever sanctioned such a thing because war is brought onto people through manipulation. How are communists the only ones against the wars? Many groups oppose the wars such as libertarians, communists, nationalists and socialists and social democrats. I just believe that having education in the nation that currently has Muslims can fix the problems, and having reasonable immigration can work. This war on Islam you want to call it is a war to give corporations what they want, and is a form of globalism because the war profiteers and other organizations benefit from it. I think that is obvious yet it is glossed over by people on the right. The same thing with people on the left ignoring runaway immigration. There can be a middle ground. I do not regard nationalism on the left which I believe in as collectivism because we had ideologies in the 1980’s and 1970’s with people heading them such as Mel Hurtig that truly wanted a debt-free Canada and reasonable policies. So, this is a trap that people on the neoliberal left, centre and right want or without realizing fall into.

        • Minicapt

          Why did Mussolini forbid helicopters overflying Rome at any time?
          “Wop, wop, wop, wop …


  • Spatchcocked

    Wow….thankee Billy Bob. I never looked at things quite that way before…

    All those threads….economic ….epistemological….cultural….sexual…

    And you were able to draw them seamlessly together and MAKE SENSE of them !!!!!

    I’m aware of your sacrifice….I acknowledge my debt…..my tremendous gratitude for spending time that you usually devote to imminentizing the eschaton.

    Bless you.

    • G

      Wow, sounds like I really missed something

      I just skip over Billy’s comments because of him… being …well… you know , an idiot.

      • Exile1981

        billy bob had a post? i never see them anymore.

  • ontario john

    And yet they encourage cooperation with islam. All one has to do is check the current united church observer website to see what the church is interested in. Stories on gay muslim groups, homosexual rights, whiny indians, and global warming scams.

  • markerc .

    She should become an Imam…..that would be interesting! ha

  • ontario john

    The united church and the anglican church represent everything that has gone wrong in Western society.

    • ntt1

      yes. and for the same reason…destruction from within by progressivism/communism.

  • infedel

    Sorry; I am silly tonight…but that is the funniest headline I have read in a good while.

  • ntt1

    She probably has strong grounds for wrongful dismissal as most other congregants don’t believe in the trinity either

  • RAMA44

    I see where all this is going, next thing they’ll be insisting surgeons go to medical school and get a license. Mark my words!

    • Sure as the sun rises!

      • RAMA44

        I think the main thing is she IDENTIFIES herself as a minister.That should be all that matters .No?

  • BillyHW

    So when does she file the human rights complaint?