Anglicans on the road to oblivion

In a nice car of course. In the procession for same sex marriage:

Temporary setback due to negative close vote.. From CBC:

The Rev. Allison Courey of Manitoba’s Rupert’s Land diocese said she loved to study the Bible throughout her life and she did not choose to be a lesbian.

She made an impassioned plea in support of the resolution, saying “many of us” have committed suicide because “death was better than being rejected by God.”


Odd that if Rev Courey loves the Bible so much she never read Paul’s letter to the Romans, the first and most significant of the apostolic letters, where we read

20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

24Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

The New Testament is to the church what a constitution is to a country, except that it cannot be altered, as it is thought to reflect the nature of reality. A church that defies the New Testament is not really a church any more, whatever anyone may say.

Cause of death: Grey heads. No Sunday schools. Thoughts?

See also: Some thoughts on the extinction of the Anglican Church in Canada. (No Sunday schools)

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  • Maybe they can have a vote to abolish themselves?

  • BillyHW

    The Anglicans are what happens when you put women in charge of a church.

    • Daviddowntown

      There certainly is a lot of grist for your mill. Then again it goes for both genders.

    • Solo712

      It’s bad news, really, because if this is Christianity then there is penis envy in heaven.

    • ntt1

      usually a beamy pottery barn dyke with blue hair.

  • k2

    They need an apostasy law similar to the Islamic one …. Joking aside, I’ve wondered for years why Christianity in general cannot seem to stand up to secularism and narcissism. Ultimately, making life about the pursuit of pleasure and the minimization of pain (which is kind of the Hollywood/progressive model) would appear to me to be unsatisfactory for a good chunk of people. So they would look for significance elsewhere, but with the utter distaste, even hatred, that academia and the media generally display toward Christianity, it is not perhaps surprising that they do not look to Christianity for this (but to Islam, for instance, or to New Age-type cults/religions).

    Sometimes science can be a suitable substitute (a la Dawkins) but, quite frankly, I don’t think most people are rational and unemotional enough to find their answer there. So it has to be religion – but we’re social animals and Christianity is definitely NOT socially acceptable in the West anymore. And so most don’t even consider it when they are looking for a meaningful paradigm.

    But all of this was really just a long-winded way of saying what I started with: in the end, I don’t really understand what the decline of Christianity is all about, and why it can’t stand up to secularism (as Islam apparently can). Other than the apostasy thing, of course ….

  • FivePointSpurgeon

    Well done quoting Romans. I’m with Billy on this point, too: when women “lead” a “church”, this is what you get.

    • ntt1

      when women lead anything this is what you get.

      • Justin St.Denis

        Women could fuck up a lemonade stand.

  • Frances

    Actually, women “leading a church” was not uncommon in the Celtic church in the early days. It was the “Roman” tradition that went the male clergy route, and then to the celebate clergy (though celebacy tended to mean no wife only, with gay lovers tolerated much longer). However, that was then and this is now. Have known several woman priests, some good, some not so good, one very good.

    There is already a parallel Anglican presence in the world for the orthodox Anglicans. The Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans (I think they sponsor GAFCon – Global Anglican Future Conference) is the world-wide expression, but there are many regional groups.. Here in North America, there is the Anglican Church in North America which – I think – includes both the Anglican Network in Canada and the American Anglican Council. The latter is very active in the US, and has developed a parallel ministry to the Episcopal Church for Orthodox Anglicans with about 80,000 individuals (some of which may be also counted as Episcopalians depending on the formal affiliation of the parish with The Episcopal Church while others are in parishes affiliated with ACiNA – it’s a bit confused).

    World-wide, many more Anglicans are orthodox than progressive. They may or may not accept woman priests, but they do accept “… the authority of Scripture and the uniqueness of Jesus Christ as the only means of salvation.” ANiC is the Canadian orthodox presence. It will be interesting to see how this latest resolution plays out.

    • DMB

      Priests at least in the Roman Catholic tradition tend to have the title as Father as well as Reverend in their position representing the type of role they represent as a “fatherly figure”. A monk holds the title brother meaning a brotherly figure, a nun holds the title as sister with the superior nun holding the title a mother i.e. mother Teresa holding a motherly role. If woman are to be given leadership positions in Christian Churches it is important to identify the type of roles they play because a man can never be a motherly figure or mentor nor can a woman ever be a fatherly figure or mentor.

  • ntt1

    the church is shot through with marxist destroyers. it is all ready over, once the grey hairs die off there is very little new blood coming to the pews.
    some years back I attended our Anglican Synod as was shocked by the marxist hatred of western civilization shown by ALL the young postulates to priesthood. that was almost 20 years ago, now they are close to achieving their goal.

  • ontario john

    Much research has been done on why churches dwindle and fail. In all cases its because leftist or liberal elements creep into the church. Its like a disease. The same research shows that churches that stick to the Bible and conservative values thrive, or at least maintain their membership.

    • It’s worth noting that the Scriptural promises to the church apply to churches that take the New Testament as their guide. Those promises do not cover those who set aside *its plain and obvious meanings*.

      Progressives try to cloud the issue by saying things like, many traditional Christians sell out to materialism or adultery. True, but those vices are not explicitly supported by church teachings, rather denounced.

      In the case of gay sex, liberal churches explicitly endorse what the New Testament explicitly denounces – so their doom is assured: Nice condos somewhere with a large central atrium. But they probably won’t mind that future.

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