Phyllis Chesler on gay denial after Orlando

At Israel National News:

That same week, right after the Jihad massacre in Orlando, another colleague, long used to being published–and published frequently at gay websites–wrote about the male Muslim immigrant/refugee physical and sexual violence against girls and women (their own and infidel women); against homosexuals–and paradoxically, also against young boys. He counseled gays to understand that the issues of gun control and “hate,” while important, were also quite beside the point, that “homosexuality is a capital crime in Islam.”

His piece was rejected by every gay site he approached. One venue threatened him: If he published his piece “anywhere,” that his work would no longer be welcome in their pages.

I welcomed him to the American Gulag.

He told me that he finally “had” to publish the piece at a conservative site.

Gently, I told him that what he wrote was the kind of piece that was long familiar only at conservative sites and that he should expect considerable flack for where he’s published as well as for what he’s published.More.

Reality check: I’ve written here that Orlando is a watershed. It becomes clear to potential survivors that sharia enthusiasts and gays are not a coalition, any more than cats and birds are. And I still think that lesson will sink in. But something else happens first, that probably explains what Chesler is describing, even post-Orlando:

Past bad decisions are sunk costs. Even gays who want to live will resist admitting that the people they put faith in betrayed them and the people they despised were right about the threat. That’s because the fallout is perceived as already experienced.

Over time, offered an opportunity to repeat the disaster, people who want to live start separating themselves from people who have other priorities. Old coalitions fray and new ones start up. Well, we shall see, but that’s the usual pattern.

See also: Decision point at Orlando Moving the discussion forward:

  • That is one diseased “community”.

    • Ed Ellison

      This is what happens when you embrace mental illness.
      Expect more thinning of this herd.
      Delusions are always trumped by reality. It may take a while, but no exceptions.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      Old coalitions fray and new ones start up.
      We are seeing this right now as some so called conservatives are willing to risk another Clinton presidency to spite Trump who has won fair and square.

  • Brenda

    I’m a bit cynical of these ‘watershed moments.’ There have been a lot of ‘watershed moments’ starting with 9/11, and they haven’t resulted in a mass exodus from politically correct thinking. Some people are just stupid.

    • Yes, but only SOME people are just stupid. Otherwise, the human race would be extinct. I’m predicting defections from the grand coalition as some members realize that they are target practice. We’ll see.

  • Norman_In_New_York

    If these denials continue to alienate the people most willing to reach out and help them, will anybody still care if they remain targets?

    • Justin St.Denis

      Excellent point. Example – Sweden. Nobody gives a fuck anymore.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        I’m sure there are people in Sweden who will listen.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      Ostriches do not only kill themselves by burying their heads in the sand.
      They kill other people, too.
      We have to keep broadcasting to help those who will listen.

  • Hard Little Machine

    I don’t care. If the LGBTQ community wants to rush into the arms of the Muslims who want to exterminate them, who am I get in the middle of it. Not my problem and don’t come to me the next time.

    • Justin St.Denis

      It used to be called “tough love”.

      • Hard Little Machine

        It’s nothing to me. I’m not making a moral point here. I really don’t care. The only people who run into burning buildings are firefighters. If you’re running into a burning building to worship fire, that’s on you.

        Here in NC whenever there’s a hurricane the national guard goes out and asks people in the worst areas to get out of their homes and come with them to a safe shelter. If they refuse they’re handed a clipboard to fill out the contact info for their next of kin and then they move on to the next house. That’s it.

        • Sounds like a good approach if we have a safe shelter. In this case, the safe shelter will be recognizing home truths at the expense of the grand progressive coalition – which wa only ever united in its hatred of the rest of us.

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          Ray Nagin neglected his duty during Katrina.
          Some people must have heeded the warnings of other people to get the fuck out of town.
          You can’t just fold your tent.
          The ones who listened survived.

    • Surele Surele

      My sentiments exactly. We should also remove all warning labels on stuff, this will take care of the stupid. just sayin.

      • Alain

        Start with brooms, mops and plastic bags.