• Dana Garcia

    Punishment is always a good response to illegal or prohibited conduct.

  • Ed

    If they’re expelled they won’t be any less educated than if they graduate.

  • Bravo!

    • V10_Rob

      Considering how frail and sensitive these types are, that they get PTSD from hearing things they don’t like or seeing chalk, it’s rich how they belittled the accusation that staff felt scared and intimidated.

      That’s your whole MO, you little fascists, and it’s being thrown back in your faces. Are you too stupid to see your hypocrisy or are you admitting your ‘trauma’ is all an act?

  • WhiteRabbit3

    Kind of mixed on this one.

    I strongly support the right of students to protest over any matter whatsoever, particularly in a state-run university. It must, however, be done in a way that does not disrupt the normal functioning of the university.

    Technically the students are off-side, especially when they take over a room and refuse to leave. But is the disruption so serious as to threaten them with arrest and expulsion? Did they truly intimidate staff?

    Not enough information in this video to make that call.

    What is interesting is that the university administration is willing to stand up to them. This may signal a wind change in higher education.

    • I see your point, but shouldn’t each university be able to decide? There’s no ‘right’ to attend OSU, or wherever, that’s being trampled if they’re expelled.

      • WhiteRabbit3

        “shouldn’t each university be able to decide?”

        Private universities yes, provided they don’t misrepresent their policies to the public. Brigham Young University, for example, has every right to demand strict rules of conduct, especially since they are up-front about those rules.

        But U.S. courts have mandated that students going to state-run universities have very broad free speech rights.

        • There’s a difference between the right to free speech and depriving other of their rights – like the right to attend a class you’ve paid for. What the US courts have said is the problem, not the example to follow.

          • WhiteRabbit3

            Yes, but did that happen here? Hard to tell.

            And I agree with the court’s decision. It does not, by the way, give students the right to disrupt the normal functioning of the university, as I’ve already said.

          • Clausewitz

            Either way it all comes down to the Tyranny of the Minority.

    • kkruger71

      I agree with their right to protest, but I would argue that if any overnight staff claims to feel uneasy about their presence than the university is well within bounds of the actions in this video. It’s not like they had the protesters bum-rushed or suddenly disciplined. From what I see they were very calmly told, with 10-12 hours notice, what actions the university would take if they did not stop occupying the room they did not have the right to take over.
      It’s not like these people were just trying to get information out, or have their opinions heard, by this point in the protest it’s clear the faculty is aware. Right at the start the administrator says the head of the university will not receive demands.

      • WhiteRabbit3

        The trouble with shutting down protest because someone professes to “feeling uneasy” is that it gives power to one person to control other people’s actions based on what they claim are their feelings. In other words, “You can’t do that because it upsets me.”

        A more objective measure is needed, such as would a reasonable person have felt intimidated by these student’s actions? As an example, if they physically blocked people from going about their business or shouted abuse at people then clearly the students were violating a code of conduct.

        • kkruger71

          I would fully agree if this were a legal assembly, but since they are already violating the law, those niceties are already past. By illegally taking over the space they are already breaking the code of conduct.

          • WhiteRabbit3

            Sure they are, but how disruptive was it truly? I argue that minor disruptions — e.g., occupying a room that no one wanted to use at that time anyway — should be tolerated in the interests of free speech. Otherwise you could shut down almost any demonstration based on some technicality.

            Again, I can’t tell the degree of disruption from this video.

  • Mark DeFord Eletion

    Perhaps we should close all of the universities and colleges. As a replacement, I propose a system that would begin with free online courses, optionally supplemented by study groups. Supervised testing, practical training and full certification would be supplied by the employer. Eliminating students’ massive college debt would mean that beginning employees would be able to live with lower pay, which would allow employers to save greatly on payroll costs.

    • ntt1

      Suspend all the social science faculties until order is restored then move toward permanent cancellation of the garbage degree courses.
      These idiots are primarily students studying in the grievance faculties any course with studies tacked on the end is part of the soft mushy social sciences that spawn these types of totalitarian fascist progressives . close the faculties down and preserve the hard sciences maths and real arts studies.

      • Observer

        But if you cancel courses in gender studies it will cost society much more money to return them all to psychiatric institutions.