Wizard of Oz

Are We Now or Have We Ever Been… a Democracy?

A large question rears its head as we move toward the Democratic and Republican conventions this summer — to what extent is it possible to have a democracy, or even a democratic republic, in a country whose population is in excess of 320 million? When the Constitution was written, we were slightly over three million, not counting slaves that might have added another half million or so — in all, approximately a third the population of present day Los Angeles County.

The more people the more possibility of chicanery, you would think, and the less possibility of any serious direct democratic representation.

  • infedel

    United States of America is a Constitutional Representative Republic. Our Fore Fathers knew the evil of the democracy mob rule….the marxists are twisting history and brainwashing our youth…smack them back to reality.

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    I had always assumed that people who said America was a “democracy” were just lazy, or didn’t pay attention in civics class, but now I’m starting to see that claim in a different light, and I’m more likely to correct someone that says that.
    The U.S. was never intended to be a “democracy”.
    We were ALWAYS envisioned as a Constitutional Republic, and only as a Constitutional Republic.
    When I hear someone say they want to “democratize” America more, to my ears, it sounds as unnerving as if they say we need to be more “sovietized”.

    • El Martyachi

      Was that you who said that every other national anthem sounds like “the internationale”? #truth

      • Drunk_by_Noon

        I don’t know if that was me, but there is some truth to that now that I think about it. So it probably wasn’t me, but they were probably right.

        • El Martyachi

          It makes me inwardly chuckle sometimes and seems like something you’d say.. 😛

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            I do say lot’s of crazy shit sometimes. 😉

  • Alain

    It isn’t the size of the population that kills democracy. To make a long story short it is when politicians are corrupt combined with the number of takers outnumbering the number of workers. It is the same as giving small kids the run of the candy store.

  • Brett_McS

    I would hope not. I’ve seen enough of “the general public” to not want them to have any power over me, thank you very much.

  • Norman_In_New_York

    There is a lot of hairsplitting here as to what constitutes a democracy. I am satisfied that I live in a free country because, (1) I have freedom of conscience, (2) I am free to petition the government to redress my grievances, (3) I am guaranteed the right of due legal process, and (4) the losers of elections accept defeat.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      That is an unusual thing when compared to much of the rest of the world, but I also fear that we are rapidly sling into an era of being so informationally and culturally managed that we assume that we are freer than we really are.

      • Minicapt

        I’m not free; I just haven’t had the right offer …


  • Hard Little Machine

    At the foundation of America perhaps as much as 15% of the total population had the vote. Compared to say Victorian England where only 10% could vote. So in relative terms America was seen as a rabble, a mob, a democracy, yes.Today let’s say for the sake of argument that 50% of the population is eligible to vote. And only half them bother to. But who do they vote for? It doesn’t matter and the rabble has no voice in that. That’s pre determined. America is slightly less rigged than Iran.